I-I>illary..... run-of-the-mill victory, smackdown or most historic tank job ever? (official 2016 election gameday)

[Make Angels Great Again]

^

lol

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Hillary in particular - and the Democrats in general - have surrounded themselves with people who consider themselves culturally elite, and many of them get paid a lot of money for things that most people wouldn't consider real work (actors, musicians, and others in the entertainment industry). I fully understand why people are put off. They have driven many common people into the arms of a party who support big business and anything that maximizes profit for those with extreme wealth. An odd partnership to say the least.

[Thomas]

13 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Hillary in particular - and the Democrats in general - have surrounded themselves with people who consider themselves culturally elite, and many of them get paid a lot of money for things that most people wouldn't consider real work (actors, musicians, and others in the entertainment industry). I fully understand why people are put off. They have driven many common people into the arms of a party who support big business and anything that maximizes profit for those with extreme wealth. An odd partnership to say the least.

I guess politics is all about cliques. Hillary's clique is all bff now with the hip Hollywood crowd and the white working class is the ugly former best friend pushed to the curb. Trump is that loser guy you know you should stay away from but it beats loneliness.

[Spirit]

Congrats Dems!

 

 

[Blarg]

New Hampshire showing up just a little late for the party. 

[Tank]

8 minutes ago, Blarg said:

New Hampshire showing up just a little late for the party. 

be kind. 97 year old ed mcdonald has to count each of the 2700 votes throughout the state by hand.

[Blarg]

Now even the WSJ has a take on why Hillary lost and that was someone slipped a Johnson into the voting booth.

Thanks Geofff for your undying support of Trump this year by trying to #slipajohnsonintothewhitehouse.

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/14/how-third-party-voters-influenced-election-2016/

[Thomas]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

New Hampshire showing up just a little late for the party. 

McGovern just won New Hampshire last week.

[ABC]

[Spirit]

[Brandon]

just scrolled past an article with a headline of "hillary having a hard time leaving the white house after defeat"

[Blarg]

That is fucked up.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Amazingly, there are articles around about how Hillary can still win the election. Folks, it's over. Whether you agree with the Electoral College or not, it is the system that was in place when the votes were cast, and under that system, Donald J. Trump is the next President of the United States. Now let's move forward.

[Adam]

This is a pretty good podcast on the EC

http://tomwoods.com/ep-786-why-the-electoral-college-is-great-and-no-one-should-even-think-about-abolishing-it/

[ABC]

I'll check it out. I dig podcasts.

[red321]

Does it discuss how Hillary won counties generating 64% of our national economy while Trump squeaked out 36%?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/22/donald-trump-lost-most-of-the-american-economy-in-this-election/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_economy-1125a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

[Adam]

The democrats should have spent much more energy selling an economic message to the rest of the country, or at all even. They've obviously recognized that at this point. 

 

[Adam]

And there are a shit ton of minorities, poor folks and college kids in those areas that aren't responsible for job and wealth creation. Seems like just another way of saying she beat Trump in the Blue cities. 

[Jay]

23 minutes ago, red321 said:

Does it discuss how Hillary won counties generating 64% of our national economy while Trump squeaked out 36%?

Party of the wealthy elite? What happened?

 

[Brandon]

28 minutes ago, Adam said:

This is a pretty good podcast on the EC

http://tomwoods.com/ep-786-why-the-electoral-college-is-great-and-no-one-should-even-think-about-abolishing-it/

listening now.

he's right, the popular vote argument is a sore loser mentality and the world series analogy and baseball game scores is a solid analogy.

[AngelsLakersFan]

4 hours ago, Taggart said:

listening now.

he's right, the popular vote argument is a sore loser mentality and the world series analogy and baseball game scores is a solid analogy.

We should abolish wins and losses and just go with pure run differential.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

5 hours ago, red321 said:

Does it discuss how Hillary won counties generating 64% of our national economy while Trump squeaked out 36%?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/22/donald-trump-lost-most-of-the-american-economy-in-this-election/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_economy-1125a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Sounds like the type of thing you have put on a trophy that gets put on display next to the Texas Rangers world series trophy.  

[Kevin]

1 hour ago, calscuf said:

To be fair, the EC is more like the winner of the game is the one who "wins" the most innings.

F'n blowpen

[ABC]

10 hours ago, #CF8 said:

I'll check it out. I dig podcasts.

I got through most of it while driving but the World Series analogy
really falls apart quickly because,
while overall run diff isn't considered, each team goes into each game
to win. Every game counts,
not just games 4 and 7...Unlike the EC where the candidates do not
try to win every state only a select few. 

Plus, they kept bringing up reasoning from 200 years ago why
the EC made sense. Yes, it made sense–200 years ago. Many of those reasons
do not apply well today. 

I agree that we do not know what the outcome will be the election switched to 
a national popular tally because the game was played knowing
that only a few states were in play.

Regardless, the EC is seriously flawed. And a popular tally may not be the answer. It
may be better or it may be worse but no one made a compelling case
either way despite them proclaiming their answer
is the best.

 

[Blarg]

The EC better represents states right to representation than simple popular vote.