DNC off to a good start

[Stradling]

25 minutes ago, Puget Sound Angel said:

The Republicans are no longer the party of lower taxes, less government regulation, and individual responsibility. It is now a party of angry white nationalism. The flag, military, and family are no longer the GOP symbols. The party's symbol is Trump.

This is stupid. 

[nate]

I agree, they have been about those things for at least a decade now.

[Stradling]

Trump is not this parties symbol. 

Both parties symbol is talking shit on the other party.  It's disgusting. 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, InsideThePark said:

Well obviously you can't have one without the other with the race being as tight as it is. She has no one to blame but herself. If not for the email scandal and the failed cover up, she'd be in much better shape. Poor judgement oftentimes comes with a price.

true, but she has a lot more baggage than just the emails. that's like saying trump would be in much better shape without his mouth. my main point is that both parties have their heads so far up their asses that these two are our choices.

i also thinks it's bs that Johnson has to get a certain % of votes in a poll, which of course can't be manipulated in any way, in order for him to be included in the debates. what they should ask is if a person would like to see him included. 

[nate]

19 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Trump is not this parties symbol. 

Both parties symbol is talking shit on the other party.  It's disgusting. 

The voters beg to differ.

[InsideThePark]

17 minutes ago, Lou said:

true, but she has a lot more baggage than just the emails. that's like saying trump would be in much better shape without his mouth. my main point is that both parties have their heads so far up their asses that these two are our choices.

Lol, Trump wouldn't be who he is without his mouth.

And of course Hillary has other baggage. That had a lot to do with why she lost in 2008, and why her negatives are so high. The email scandal exacerbated her problems and reinforced people's thoughts on why they don't generally trust the Clintons.

[Stradling]

21 minutes ago, nate said:

The voters beg to differ.

The voters gave us Hilary and Trump. 

[Thomas]

Trump is a salesman and conman. He is the ultimate example of why public communication classes are a must for anyone aspiring for politics. Because somehow he is tied in a race for President when he it would feel more natural for him to be pushing timeshare rentals on the elderly.

Hillary just...doesn't. It's why people still are remembering Michelle Obama's speech more. Somehow Trump can convince apparently way more people that they can relate with him, someone utterly unrelatable, because God knows why else they'd vote for him besides not being Hillary.  Clearly the other Republican candidates weren't her either so he has something... 

[nate]

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The voters gave us Hilary and Trump. 

Yeah, that was my point

[nate]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Trump is a salesman and conman. He is the ultimate example of why public communication classes are a must for anyone aspiring for politics. Because somehow he is tied in a race for President when he it would feel more natural for him to be pushing timeshare rentals on the elderly.

Hillary just...doesn't. It's why people still are remembering Michelle Obama's speech more. Somehow Trump can convince apparently way more people that they can relate with him, someone utterly unrelatable, because God knows why else they'd vote for him besides not being Hillary.  Clearly the other Republican candidates weren't her either so he has something... 

MO is incredibly charismatic, classy and humble.  Everything Hillary isn't.

[Thomas]

7 minutes ago, nate said:

MO is incredibly charismatic, classy and humble.  Everything Hillary isn't.

She certainly has come a long way in 8 years. I don't mean that as a slam. She went from being very much not in the public eye to being incredibly so. Anyone would need time to develop these skills.  You can have all the natural talent in the world but there is a learned skill involved as well. Something H. Clinton has never been at all comfortable with even with now many years in the public eye.

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Puget Sound Angel said:

The Republicans are no longer the party of lower taxes, less government regulation, and individual responsibility. It is now a party of angry white nationalism. The flag, military, and family are no longer the GOP symbols. The party's symbol is Trump.

so how in the world would you describe the democrats?

[nate]

4 minutes ago, Tank said:

so how in the world would you describe the democrats?

Same way but replace Trump with Clinton.

[Tank]

i'm thinking this will probably be the first election in my lifetime where issues don't matter and instead it's all about character.

#letsgetajohnsonintothedebates

[mtangelsfan]

Hillary is four more years, only shadier. 

Trump is we may never make it to four more years

[Lou]

8 hours ago, InsideThePark said:

Lol, Trump wouldn't be who he is without his mouth.

And of course Hillary has other baggage. That had a lot to do with why she lost in 2008, and why her negatives are so high. The email scandal exacerbated her problems and reinforced people's thoughts on why they don't generally trust the Clintons.

that was my point

[Lou]

8 hours ago, Thomas said:

Trump is a salesman and conman. He is the ultimate example of why public communication classes are a must for anyone aspiring for politics. Because somehow he is tied in a race for President when he it would feel more natural for him to be pushing timeshare rentals on the elderly.

Hillary just...doesn't. It's why people still are remembering Michelle Obama's speech more. Somehow Trump can convince apparently way more people that they can relate with him, someone utterly unrelatable, because God knows why else they'd vote for him besides not being Hillary.  Clearly the other Republican candidates weren't her either so he has something... 

it goes beyond merely not being Hillary. he's not ANY politician. that's what has made him attractive to many Americans 

we've been saying politicians are all corrupt,evil, the same,etc for a decade now.

america has finally listened to AW 

[Lou]

honest question: 

what exactly has Hillary accomplished as a Senator or Secretary of State? 

 

[the dude abides]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

honest question: 

what exactly has Hillary accomplished as a Senator or Secretary of State? 

 

Left wing v.

(Where the fuck has LTH been this year?)

 

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

honest question: 

what exactly has Hillary accomplished as a Senator or Secretary of State? 

 

She's gained experience.  I don't like her but that would be my honest answer.

[gotbeer]

10 hours ago, Tank said:

i'm thinking this will probably be the first election in my lifetime where issues don't matter and instead it's all about character.

#letsgetajohnsonintothedebates

Should that be #SlipAJohnsonBetweenTheNuts

[NJHalo]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

honest question: 

what exactly has Hillary accomplished as a Senator or Secretary of State? 

 

She has created jobs in Libya at the US Consolate.

She helped create a safer middle east and especially a safer Israel by ensuring the Iranians can never create a nuclear weapon. Also infused billions of dollars into the Iranian economy. 

 

[Tank]

4 hours ago, Lou said:

honest question: 

what exactly has Hillary accomplished as a Senator or Secretary of State? 

 

I can't point to any one single thing that really has her stamp on it. I keep asking the same question.

[mrwicked]

18 hours ago, nate said:

Newest polls are literally 50/50.  Clinton is a fucking terrible candidate, she is a woman which many people are against, lots of questionable history/actions and the democrat party did her no favors by being really shitty at cyber security.  Even Biden with all his baggage would be much better.

biden would have sleep walked to the white house.

clinton is just so terrible.

[Lou]

18 hours ago, Thomas said:

She certainly has come a long way in 8 years. I don't mean that as a slam. She went from being very much not in the public eye to being incredibly so. Anyone would need time to develop these skills.  You can have all the natural talent in the world but there is a learned skill involved as well. Something H. Clinton has never been at all comfortable with even with now many years in the public eye.

she was First Lady, who is very much in the public eye. 

then she was Senator of New York.  it's not like she was senator of Wyoming or New Mexico