Syria

[nate]

I love how the Arab League is complaining to the UN knowing well that it will be the US that takes action.

 

Personally I don't care about Syria, if they are killing each other and how they are doing it.  Let the middle east deal with it if at all.  No matter what we do, they will still end up killing each other in barbaric ways.

 

Interesting fact.  Many historians believe that the reason behind the barbaric ways of the middle east can be linked to two things.  The first 1000 years AD the middle east was one of if not the top scholar centers of the world in both philosophy and innovation.  In around 1100 AD a regime change happened and the new leader ordered all literature on science and philosophy destroyed in the name of Allah.  At the same time, Jews & Christians were adapting their religion to be more accepting of modern views and acceptance of education as a tool to advance.

 

The second reason would be the way we drew the lines of the middle east countries in the 19th century with total disregard to which tribes were in which region, many times putting multiple opposing tribes in the same country.  Thus causing conflict.

[mtangelsfan]

Good post nate.  At one point Islam was one of the leaders in science and math, they were a learned people.  The didn't consume cultures, they would join and at times even practice some of the different cultural things that were beneficial.

 

As to point number two, one would have to wonder why we were drawing the lines to begin with.

[Kevin]

I might be ignorant and I'll have to do some research but when you say "we drew the lines", do you mean the U.S. drew the lines or the West? Wasn't aware we were too heavily involved in the middle east in the 19th century.

[mtangelsfan]

Mostly the west.  Mostly Europe.

[nate]

I believe it was actually a UK man in charge of it.  He did it without ever going to the region.

[TobiasFunke]

It was the Britain and France that messed up that region pretty good.

[Adam]

Stupid white people

[HaloMagic]

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/obama-syria-chemical-weapons-proposal-96547.html

I wonder if Putin is going to give us a great phrase like "peace for our time" before America completely disregards the resolution and bombs anyway. This could be a great opportunity for us to back down and for the world to get some unnecessary weapons away from a dictator without using violence but it really just feels like the other side trying to find ways to appease us. We are Nazi Germany and Russia is trying to avoid WWIII. It feels weird to see America in this position.

Edited September 10, 2013 by HaloMagic

[Mudville]

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/obama-syria-chemical-weapons-proposal-96547.html

I wonder if Putin is going to give us a great phrase like "peace for our time" before America completely disregards the resolution and bombs anyway. This could be a great opportunity for us to back down and for the world to get some unnecessary weapons away from a dictator without using violence but it really just feels like the other side trying to find ways to appease us. We are Nazi Germany and Russia is trying to avoid WWIII. It feels weird to see America in this position.

 

And there is the logical leap into the abyss.

[Caralho]

Russia wants to keep their port in Syria, they know that if America bombs and turns the tide of the war to the rebels that they could lose that very valuable piece of real estate. I don't know how sincere they are in this effort but hey whatever works. 

[Jay]

Obama will be left looking at first trigger-happy, then indecisive and finally impotent but hey whatever works.

[HaloCory22]

Hmmm

 

NewsBreaker â€@NewsBreaker8m

BREAKING: Syria wants to join chemical weapons ban treaty: Foreign Minister - @AFP

[Tank]

news this morning was reporting that syria has agreed to turn over their stockpile of chemical weapons to the UN.

 

this should help, but don't know if it's enough to stop our hellbent administration from firing away.

[TobiasFunke]

Russia wants to keep their port in Syria, they know that if America bombs and turns the tide of the war to the rebels that they could lose that very valuable piece of real estate. I don't know how sincere they are in this effort but hey whatever works.

This right here

[HaloMagic]

Well, yeah. They don't want to lose resources. So they are appeasing. That's pretty standard when you can't afford war but it seems inevitable if you don't back down. You have to make concessions. That's what the Russians just did.

[Angel Oracle]

Obama thinks he's a mad cowboy.

[LBHalos17]

Actually it's muslim factions fighting for power... history of the middle east...

 

Obama should just stop.  He was against all intervention until now...

[arch stanton]

This could actually turn to Obama's favor. It's almost like getting Assad to plead no contest without actually ever revealing the proof.

[HaloMagic]

Just judging by how the last year of his presidency has gone, I'm doubting Obama finds a way to work this into his favor. He may well claim that there are more weapons than Assad turns over, though. Which is exactly what I suspect is going to happen in a week or two.

[Jim]

smell the tranny?

Hey, I'm not judging, but really, must you bring it in here. 

[Mudville]

Since this thread started in April there is no change in the ongoing Syrian civil war. They never did invade Israel at 5am on the fisrt Monday in May. Assad is still in power, citizens are being poisoned, Obama, Kerry and McCain are looking to start another war while Russia is the defender of peace in the Middle East by proposing non violent solutions through the UN.

Cluster****.

[TobiasFunke]

lol @ Russia being the defender of peace

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Russia wants to keep their port in Syria, they know that if America bombs and turns the tide of the war to the rebels that they could lose that very valuable piece of real estate. I don't know how sincere they are in this effort but hey whatever works. 

 

I truly don't care about their motivation, if this provides a practical way to solve this issue without sending in the military.

[mtangelsfan]

Obama has his butt saved by Putin.

 

That is funny............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and sad.

[notherhalo]

so how is this admin going to remove Bashar to fulfill our duty to the Saudis now?