Syria

[jshep]

I don't care if it was Assad who gassed those people. It's not our problem and it does not create an imminent threat to this country. We are not as powerful as the President would have us believe. That fact is self evident by the lack of international support we are receiving for intervening militarily in this civil war.

We are broke, our international reputation is probably the worst it's been in the history of the country, and the overwhelming majority of the American public do not want to be involved in Syria.

There are two reasons why I see our government getting us involved in this:

1: Israel

2: Military contractors

We are supposed to be winding down our military conflicts, not creating new ones.

 

Ya, I think it says a lot about this whole thing that we're chomping at the bit to get involved and still couldn't get the UK aboard.

 

What's happening to civilians in Syria(whoever is doing it) is obviously horrible, but this just isn't a civil war we should be forcing ourselves into the middle of and steering into World War III.

 

It's not a particularly easy idea to swallow after seeing what's happened there, but I think this is where we should slowly back away and clean up our own messes before we change back into our World Police costumes.

[shellback]

Yes, why would I ever do so?  France's history is not much better than ours.  (aside from the losing, of course)

wellington said he would rather face 2 german divisions in front of him than have one french division behind him!

[Brian Ilten]

Because it is not our job. It is not our responsiblility. And the facts regarding this issue is questionable at best.

It is too bad that innocent lives are being lost. But that has happened since the dawn of time and the US wasn't there to swoop in and save the day. This is not our fight. We have no business being involved and will only do more harm then good. Let them kill each other.

[HaloCory22]

I hear the Klingons are in the middle of a civil war on planet Kronos. One side is using illegal photon torpedoes. Get NASA and Obama on the line! We need to solve this problem ASAP! 

[TobiasFunke]

This might be the most agreeable topic I've ever seen on the spin board.

[VariousCrap]

It is too bad that innocent lives are being lost. But that has happened since the dawn of time and the US wasn't there to swoop in and save the day. This is not our fight. We have no business being involved and will only do more harm then good. Let them kill each other.

 

 

It sounds so cruel to say, "let them kill each other", but the reality is many countries all over the world - especially in the Middle East - go through these type of horrific shifts over and over again.  It's is just best to just let them play out.

[arch stanton]

It's time to see this for what it is. A good old fashioned Cold War standoff between the Russians and the Americans.

[arch stanton]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/30/syria-us-government-document/2742775/

 

Here's the ""proof". They don't even try anymore.  

[TobiasFunke]

Scott34, I'm guessing you are young and really don't remember the world before we got knee deep in Iraq and Afghanistan. But for all of us on here that do remember life before and certainly the last 10 years, that is the reason we are all 100% COMPLETELY against this bull crap. We got fooled once/twice but not again.

[shellback]

even if everything our politicians are saying is true about the assad regime, there is no reason for us to militarily intervene.

we didn't give a shit when our ally saddam hussien gassed thousands kurds in northern iraq. why the sudden outrage?

our government is completely morally bankrupt and has been for many years.

[Everling]

No more war.

[Lhalo]

The UN inspectors have left. It seems that it's just a matter of time before the missiles start flying.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/un-inspectors-leave-syria-as-us-pushes-forward-with-plans-for-military-action/2013/08/31/9d79d88a-121b-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_story.html

[Caralho]

Obama is going to make another speech at 10:15. I am pretty tired of the saber rattling.

[Caralho]

Oh and those countries egging the US on without putting their asses on the line can go fellate themselves. 

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324324404579045300639945302.html?mod=rss_mobile_uber_feed

[Lhalo]

The French (insert joke here) don't want to be involved in this either.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/31/us-syria-crisis-france-poll-idUSBRE97U05120130831

[mancini79]

Lets just be grateful that Assad didn't try to assassinate Obama's dad.

[mancini79]

Obama is going to make another speech at 10:15. I am pretty tired of the saber rattling.

 

Crap, I only have 30 min to gas up my car before gas prices skyrocket.

[Spirit]

I am not "back"...  Its just when WW3 has a chance of breaking out, I want to make damn sure my opinion was on record before it all goes to hell.

 

Fair enough. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And welcome back.  =)

[Lhalo]

Now Obama is calling for a vote from congress.

[Caralho]

Congress is supposed to be in recess until the 9th, they should be flying back to Washington right now.

[Brian Ilten]

Congress better tell BHO to shut the hell up and sit the frack down.

[mtangelsfan]

While I'm still wary of what Congress may do I am going to give the president props for doing the right thing and allowing Congress to vote on it.

[TobiasFunke]

While I'm still wary of what Congress may do I am going to give the president props for doing the right thing and allowing Congress to vote on it.

I'll hold off on the props until he stands by Congresses decision (hopefully a big Nay vote)

[Scott34]

The debate/vote is going to be extremely interesting to watch - no matter which side you are on.

[TobiasFunke]

**** being interesting. This is serious business that only a small percentage of people actually support in this country. Hopefully Congress gets that through their thick skull when they generate this "interesting" debate.