Spin Forum Dumping Bin

[Adam]

What is there to see? It is not lawful for a man to use his body in trade for income less than an amount determined by government.  

[Rico]

So you really want to do away with minimum wage? You think that would be good for the economy?

[Adam]

I want individuals to have a right to their body. 

[Rico]

What about overtime pay after 8 hours and lunch breaks. These are things the government has determined employers should give to their employees. Are they bad too?

[Adam]

Yep. Pretty pretty pretty bad.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Sounds like Rico is trying hard to pivot.

[Rico]

If an employer says he wants to whip his employees and the employees agree to these terms because they really really need that job.  You think this acceptable?  That government doesn't have the right to step in when someone is being exploited?

[Adam]

I’m more concerned about the people who are worth $8 an hour and can’t get a job because it’s illegal for them to work for that.

[UndertheHalo]

Ok, but a few posts up you’re arguing about the purity of allowing someone to sell their labor for whatever price.  So you apparently do draw the line somewhere. I guess whipping.  We’re just not going to find any common ground on this Adam.  

and to be clear.  If someone wants to do a job for fixed rate that is below “minimum wage” that can be arranged.  If you’re an employer things are little different. 

Edited May 16, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

I mean they use to compensate workers with company tokens because they could and their was no government regulation.  Maybe it wouldn’t snap back to that right away.  But if they took away minimum wage we would absolutely go back to that eventually.  

It’s difficult for me to accept arguments that place merit in that kind of system. 

Edited May 16, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

4 hours ago, Adam said:

Hopefully the Twin abort this victory! C'mon Walsh

I appreciate what you were doing here. 

[Adam]

28 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ok, but a few posts up you’re arguing about the purity of allowing someone to sell their labor for whatever price.  So you apparently do draw the line somewhere. I guess whipping.  We’re just not going to find any common ground on this Adam.  

and to be clear.  If someone wants to do a job for fixed rate that is below “minimum wage” that can be arranged.  If you’re an employer things are little different. 

I was just using an illustration. I don’t think there should be any government regulation of any kind. 

But I get it’s complex. Our economy, our spending, our entire system requires that wages increase and if they’re not going to do it naturally they need to be forced to. 

Also the comparison to minimum wage and prostitution and prohibition is that there is precedent that we don’t have self-ownership 

 

[Adam]

Back to killing kids....

We all have different values and there are two primary realities on this issue. One perspective is that fetuses are nothing but parasites and should be treated as such. On the other side they’re human beings with the same rights as anyone else and doing anything to harm them is unthinkable. At the very least, smaller bodies of people with values overwhelmingly on one side of this should be allowed to govern themselves as they wish. 

[Spirit]

I love Twitter

 

 

[Taylor]

17 hours ago, Adam said:

Yep. Pretty pretty pretty bad.

I like lunch breaks and not being taken advantage of by my employer. I guess I must be a socialist.

[Adam]

Thank God for elected officials! We'd all never get a break

[Jason]

So I am in no way affected by a woman having an abortion. Yes, I think it's barbaric and the woman who kills their child will face God's judgment for it. That's on them. The pro choice crowd chants "My body, my choice" and do not believe the government should tell them what to do (I agree with that). It's kind of BS though that the woman has an out if she doesn't want to be a mother to that child. If the dude that knocked her up doesn't want to be a dad you can bet your ass the government is going to force him to be the father. 

[Tank]

Twitter has been a crap fest this week of both sides of the abortion issue. 

Maybe the stupidest post I’ve seen, and I’ve it a few times, is “no uterus, no opinion!” repeated several times.

[Jason]

 

Can somebody please think of something else this chick gets upset with.  The more of her, the better

[Jason]

49 minutes ago, Tank said:

Twitter has been a crap fest this week of both sides of the abortion issue. 

Maybe the stupidest post I’ve seen, and I’ve it a few times, is “no uterus, no opinion!” repeated several times.

But they can still compete in women's sports now

[Spirit]

10 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Can somebody please think of something else this chick gets upset with.  The more of her, the better

 

In case any of you were wondering ...

 

[Blarg]

What is disingenuous about the pro choice crowd right now is stating removing abortion removes a woman's right to choose not to procreate. Abortion is the choice when irresponsibility before the act of intercourse takes place. It's not the only choice, the logical choice, it's a choice when none was made to avoid it.

The complexity of putting the weight on women's shoulders to prevent pregnancy is the rape aspect which is not an insignificant number. For those victims their choice was stripped from them and it's a second offense, to force the woman to carry that child to term, by society as a whole. There is no justice in that.

Alabama has made a ruling that disregards justice. It should not stand as law. 

[Tank]

11 hours ago, Jason said:

But they can still compete in women's sports now

Yeah, what a horrible precedent that has become. Time for a third category in competitive sport: men, women, and both.

 

[Taylor]

18 hours ago, Jason said:

So I am in no way affected by a woman having an abortion. Yes, I think it's barbaric and the woman who kills their child will face God's judgment for it. That's on them. The pro choice crowd chants "My body, my choice" and do not believe the government should tell them what to do (I agree with that). It's kind of BS though that the woman has an out if she doesn't want to be a mother to that child. If the dude that knocked her up doesn't want to be a dad you can bet your ass the government is going to force him to be the father. 

An important woman in my life had two abortions when she was younger. She's since become a Christian and is now pro-life. However, her perspective is much different than yours or mine, for obvious reasons. Demonizing the women who have abortions will never help anything.

[Jason]

17 minutes ago, Taylor said:

An important woman in my life had two abortions when she was younger. She's since become a Christian and is now pro-life. However, her perspective is much different than yours or mine, for obvious reasons. Demonizing the women who have abortions will never help anything.

Maybe I didn't properly express my point. I'm not trying to demonize them. That's between her and God. Thankfully he forgives