SCOTUS: Same Sex Marriage Legal Nationwide

[Mark68]

Anthony Kennedy's closing paragraph

When I first read this I was nodding my head. This is exactly how I feel.

[Rico]

 like bisexuals have to deny part of their love today. 

Marriage is a commitment to one person.  If you can't commit to one person than don't get married, it is not for you.

[RallyMo]

I've always thought that the term marriage should be taken away from the hands of the government.

Make everything a civil union and treat the unions equally under the law.

Edited June 28, 2015 by RallyMo

[Tank]

For years, the left has been equating disapproval of homosexuality with racial bigotry. Right now, colleges can't receive federal money if they have a disapproved racial policy. People who refuse to participate in something they believe is degrading will be forced to cooperate. Churches who receive grant money or work in fields like adoption will not be able to participate. Schools will teach that sodomy is an equal to the procreative act. 

 

That's just the government. 

 

i think that's a very valid point in the whole debate.

[Tank]

franklin graham, son of evangelist billy graham, said that because marriage was instituted by God, it should not be redefined by the SCOTUS. i thought that was an interesting point.

[nate]

i think that's a very valid point in the whole debate.

 

How about people being banned from something because they don't share the same beliefs?

 

Christians are bread to believe that their God is the only God and his way is the only way.  For some reason they think that those beliefs should be held by everyone, even the ones that don't believe in the same God, or any God.

[juansavage1]

Marriage evolves over time. I don't think it's right to impose rules on it. Marriage is too profound, as Kennedy said, for narrow mindedness.

Marriage is a commitment to one person. If you can't commit to one person than don't get married, it is not for you.

[nate]

franklin graham, son of evangelist billy graham, said that because marriage was instituted by God, it should not be redefined by the SCOTUS. i thought that was an interesting point.

 

This is incredibly arrogant and myopic.

[juansavage1]

Nobody was banned from anything. They had to conform to what marriage is. Any rule you have, by your logic, bans somebody.

How about people being banned from something because they don't share the same beliefs?

Christians are bread to believe that their God is the only God and his way is the only way. For some reason they think that those beliefs should be held by everyone, even the ones that don't believe in the same God, or any God.

[Don]

franklin graham, son of evangelist billy graham, said that because marriage was instituted by God, it should not be redefined by the SCOTUS. i thought that was an interesting point.

Your marriage may be validated by God based upon a ceremony performed according to the standards of your religion, but you still need to get a license from the courthouse before the state accepts it. This isn't about gaining the right to have a union accepted by God, but rather the government.

[nate]

Marriage existed long before Christians did.  That is why it is arrogant and myopic.

[Spirit]

I've always thought that the term marriage should be taken away from the hands of the government.

Make everything a civil union and treat the unions equally under the law.

 

 

I agree with you, but that ship has sailed.  

[TobiasFunke]

Two quick questions since I'm too lazy to look it up.

1) Is the term marriage in the bible

2) is the act/ceremony of a wedding in the bible.

MT? Tank?

[Rico]

Marriage existed long before Christians did.  That is why it is arrogant and myopic.

Not only that, but marriage pre-dates all the major currently practiced religions. Marriage isn't about God, it is about society.

[juansavage1]

The song of Solomon describes marital love. There's the wedding at Cana. Examples of marriages. Interesting to note is that even when Abraham took a concubine, the concubine retained the title of mother, unlike Elton Johns "wife."

Two quick questions since I'm too lazy to look it up.

1) Is the term marriage in the bible

2) is the act/ceremony of a wedding in the bible.

MT? Tank?

[juansavage1]

My last word barring specific questions is that the next president will work alongside a very old supreme Court.

As the dissenters said, this court is very political.

[Jason]

Two quick questions since I'm too lazy to look it up.

1) Is the term marriage in the bible

2) is the act/ceremony of a wedding in the bible.

MT? Tank?

The term marriage is in there quite a few times. Ceremonies? Not as much. Here's an example.

Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

Edited June 29, 2015 by Angels N Skins

[Jason]

And yes, weddings existed before Christianity. Jesus attended weddings and Christianity didn't begin until after he died.

[TobiasFunke]

The term marriage is in there quite a few times. Ceremonies? Not as much. Here's an example.

Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

Thanks for actually citing a scripture ANS (cough Juan cough)

But the ceremony part you can't think of?

[juansavage1]

No, but modern Jewish and the oldest Christian rites are very close. It's probably written in places like the Talmud.

The Catholic rite is here.

http://catholicweddinghelp.com/topics/catholic-wedding-vows.htm

You have to promise to accept the gift of children.

The term marriage is in there quite a few times. Ceremonies? Not as much

[Angelsjunky]

franklin graham, son of evangelist billy graham, said that because marriage was instituted by God, it should not be redefined by the SCOTUS. i thought that was an interesting point.

 

Two things: One, some people don't believe in God so this statement is irrelevant at best, even ludicrous. Two, some people who believe in God don't believe that he/she/it "instituted" marriage - people did. We make the rules, we decide what we believe in - and the rules have to serve more than just those that believe in a certain faith.

[juansavage1]

First, if there's no God, it doesn't really matter ultimately. Do what makes you feel good OR do something that will advance society. I don't see how sending a message that marriage is whatever helps anybody, least of all children who will be forced to grow up without either a mother or father, by design!

The concept of the natural law, recognized before Christianity by philosophers like Aristotle is relevant here. Let's see how this works.

1. About half of people are men and half women.

2. Everybody has exactly one mother and one father and are the result of one male and one female.

3. We have full body systems except reproductive, which we each have exactly half of one and only a person of the opposite sex has the other, complementary half.

4. Men have a certain nature/drive and women another. Both natures are good.

Nature is screaming to us that women need to be with men. Compare this to the banality of "right to love."

Edited June 29, 2015 by Juan Savage

[mtangelsfan]

How about people being banned from something because they don't share the same beliefs?

 

Christians are bread to believe that their God is the only God and his way is the only way.  For some reason they think that those beliefs should be held by everyone, even the ones that don't believe in the same God, or any God.

 

Christians aren't "bred" to do anything.  

and of course we think people should believe the same or it wouldn't be a faith, would it?  Nobody in the church is making the argument that people "have" to believe.  Most people with any point of view believe others should share that point of view.  Why would anyone have an opinion that they didn't think was the right opinion.

[Lou]

How about people being banned from something because they don't share the same beliefs?

 

Christians are bread to believe that their God is the only God and his way is the only way.  For some reason they think that those beliefs should be held by everyone, even the ones that don't believe in the same God, or any God.

Christians are bred (sic)to think that way?

[Jason]

Thanks for actually citing a scripture ANS (cough Juan cough)

But the ceremony part you can't think of?

There are verses that you hear in most weddings but the bible doesn't detail how ceremonies go. Most ceremonies just piece together the various verses