Something for you kids to chew on

[Taylor]

The staff member is someone talked about here quite a bit and is not liked for the job they do.

 

The usher in section 523?

[Bruce Nye]

I'm starting to rethink when I said that Bobby Valentine is worse than Scioscia.  I'd rather have Valentine managing the Angels than this fat blowhard.

 

 

FF would rather have Porky Pig as manager for the Angels.

 

Oops..scratch that he doesn't like fat guys.

[Taylor]

I don't understand why people point out Mike's weight when criticizing his managing. What does his weight have to do with his ability to coach?

[tdawg87]

I don't understand why people point out Mike's weight when criticizing his managing. What does his weight have to do with his ability to coach?

 

[Taylor]

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luIzFLnbC60

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Napoli was a salary dump ... nothing more. I believe Wells was a group decision with Arte was pulling the strings.

A salary dump? Lol. He was only making about 5 million and he had value in a trade. The Angels could've non-tendered him and they wouldn't have owed him a dime. 

[YouthofToday]

I need a link for validation? Link?

In all seriousness this is not shocking. Scioscia wanted Napoli gone for reasons detrimental to the future success of the team.

[YouthofToday]

"...the lady I spent time with last night"

Awesomeness.

[BaseballMom]

The usher in section 523?

 

I don't think Gerald is in 523

[Brandon]

Wells' contract was a dump alright, but not a salary one. Unless were talking about toronto.

Good post by brandon. Like he said, grain of salt. Unless its from someone directly involved, it should be noted that people hear rumors at work and go with them, whether or not they are confirmed. Nothing different thanour own jobs.

That said, there's been plenty of rumors through the grapevine that sosh wasn't a big naps fan. I would tend to believe this rumor just based on other things we've all heard before.

I believed her enough to post. She said it casually and didn't need to at all. Plus, she talked more about the wife/mom and this stuff was kind of in passing and her dinner with Sosh.

[2112]

I could see Naps not fitting in with the Halos. If I remember correctly Wilson was getting in a few games for defensive reasons, ahead of both Napoli and Mathis.

One of the Angels / Red Sox games that year, Mathis airmailed a throw to centerfield, and a Red Sox fan remarked, "you don't see that every day!" I had to speak up and tell him that he didn't see the Angels all the time then.

[YouthofToday]

Mathis preferred throwing out a runner stealing second by throwing to 1B. Genius!

[Lou E Ville]

Uncle Ben, whom I told "you're a credit to your rice", never got a dinner.

 

(said at Muhammad Ali roast)

[Agalloch]

Yep, like many I am not surprised one bit.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I believed her enough to post. She said it casually and didn't need to at all. Plus, she talked more about the wife/mom and this stuff was kind of in passing and her dinner with Sosh.

I believe it.

Just to clarify, in case I came off sounding like I was casting doubt, in was just piggybacking on what you said about 'don't shoot the messenger'. A lot of stuff gets contradicted by other rumors. But even if things aren't 100 percent accurate, when it comes from a reliable source, its still better than us on here just speculating.

[mtangelsfan]

blech.  

[YouthofToday]

Stop trying to destroy the narrative Napoli was only included as a "salary dump". Also ignore that the team could have not offered him arbitration to remove said salary.

Edited October 27, 2013 by YouthofToday

[Docwaukee]

things the Jays would have accepted in the Vernon Wells trade as opposed to Mike Napoli:

 

- a picture of Mike Napoli

- a painting of a picture of Mike Napoli

- a blueray copy of 'You don't mess with the Zohan'

- a signed Mountain Dew bottle from tank

- Chuck's couch

- a sandwich

- navel lint

- a gift card to TGI fridays

- nothing

[Taylor]

Juan Rivera and Mike Napoli were two of the players Scioscia and the fans most disagreed on. Before the Napoli vs. Mathis debates, there were plenty of Rivera vs. Steve Finley/Jeff DaVanon/GMJ debates.

[AngelsLakersFan]

This sounds believable but it doesn't have to mean that Arte didn't have his hands in the Wells trade, or that Reagins wasn't the driving force behind the deal. 

 

Ultimately a trade this bad probably only happens when two or three people are trying to steer the rudder at the same time. The logic of the move is so all over the place.

[Brandon]

I think Arte may have still been involved with the Wells deal. It wreaks of someone with enough money to not give a shit about taking on one of the worst contracts ever. I can't even see the dumbest GM moving good assets and taking in that terrible contract.

[Troll Daddy]

A salary dump? Lol. He was only making about 5 million and he had value in a trade. The Angels could've non-tendered him and they wouldn't have owed him a dime. 

 

As it turns out Napoli was traded to the Blue Jays along with Juan Rivera. Angels took on a huge contract in Vernon Wells. They saved $5.8M in salary by including Napoli in the trade. Napoli had some physical issues and hit .238 ave / 182.  RISP in 2010. Let's not forget that Morales and Trumbo were part of the 2011 team. Napoli's salary was too big for a part time player. He was never going to be a full time catcher. Napoli only played around 60 games as catcher for the Rangers in 2011.

 

I understand why the Angels traded him but I don't understand why he was included in the Wells trade. Juan Rivera should of been plenty for the Jays salary dump. Reagins got out played and was afraid the trade/Arte was going to blow up .

 

Napoli and Scioscia may have had their differences but Napoli got more playing time in Anaheim than he did in Texas in 2011.

 

It turned out to be the worst trade in Angels history.

[YouthofToday]

The Angels could have not tendered Napoli a contract and let him walk away earlier the offseason.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

As it turns out Napoli was traded to the Blue Jays along with Juan Rivera. Angels took on a huge contract in Vernon Wells. They saved $5.8M in salary by including Napoli in the trade. 

Lol