Breaking: Eppard and Picciolo let go - Scioscia and Dipoto staying

[Stradling]

Runs as an individual counting stat to decide the value of a player may be over rated. But runs as it relates to an offense has to be the most important offensive stat.

[Ohtaniland]

Are you seriously complaining that it was a slow start when they were tied, or 1or 2 games out of 1st place? You're trying way too hard HT. 

 

Are you referring to the year we didn't have the Pujols and Hamilton? This team has regressed with these two guys. 

[Lifetime]

Are you referring to the year we didn't have the Pujols and Hamilton? This team has regressed with these two guys. 

Your claim was slow starts out of the gate the last 4 years being a major fsctor. That's simply not true. 

[Ohtaniland]

Your claim was slow starts out of the gate the last 4 years being a major fsctor. That's simply not true. 

 

On May 28th 2011 we were 27-27. Hardly a fast start there. I guess .500 after 54 games is now considered a good start? 

[Lifetime]

Fast start? It wasn't a slow start and the fact of the matter is they were within 2 games of 1st at the end of May. No one had a fast start that year. That start was not a major factor as you claimed.  That being said,. 500 at the end of May is not a slow start either. Agsin, you're reaching way too far to support your rant. 

[SoWhat]

Runs as an individual counting stat to decide the value of a player may be over rated.

Definetly. Brandon Phillips is the perfect example

[Halos of Anaheim]

Fast start? It wasn't a slow start and the fact of the matter is they were within 2 games of 1st at the end of May. No one had a fast start that year. That start was not a major factor as you claimed.  That being said,. 500 at the end of May is not a slow start either. Agsin, you're reaching way too far to support your rant. 

Explain 2012 or 2013.

[SoWhat]

Try and not be an asshat like YOT with RBIs are a false stat

Lol wow, what a joke

[Lifetime]

Explain what? 

[mancini79]

Explain 2012 or 2013.

 

That is when Eppard joined the picture...

[m0nkey]

It's also when mathis left the picture.  It can't be

[Ohtaniland]

Fast start? It wasn't a slow start and the fact of the matter is they were within 2 games of 1st at the end of May. No one had a fast start that year. That start was not a major factor as you claimed.  That being said,. 500 at the end of May is not a slow start either. Agsin, you're reaching way too far to support your rant. 

 

No one had a fast start that year?  Philly 33-19....Boston 29-22....Cleveland....31-18....St Louis....31-22

Florida....30-20.....SF....28-23  so yes fast starts were possible in 2011.

[Halos of Anaheim]

That is when Eppard joined the picture...

Eppard was here after the poor start in 2012. When he joined (along with Trout), the offense was 2nd in the league from then on out.

 

To be honest, I don't even know what you guys are trying to get at here.

Edited October 10, 2013 by Halos of Anaheim

[mancini79]

Eppard was here after the poor start in 2012. When he joined (along with Trout), the offense was 2nd in the league from then on out.

 

To be honest, I don't even know what you guys are trying to get at here.

 

Um... I was being sarcastic. VERY sarcastic.

 

But m0nkey was being serious. VERY serious.

Edited October 10, 2013 by mancini79

[Lifetime]

No one had a fast start that year?  Philly 33-19....Boston 29-22....Cleveland....31-18....St Louis....31-22

Florida....30-20.....SF....28-23  so yes fast starts were possible in 2011.

None of that had any impact on whether or not the Angels finished in the playoffs. The point was, no one in the West had a fast start so those starts were not a major factor in the outcome of the Angels season. 

[Halos of Anaheim]

Um... I was being sarcastic. VERY sarcastic.

 

But m0nkey was being serious. VERY serious.

I'm confused. I haven't read any other pages since the 14th, just saw Lifetimes post and assumed that he was trying to argue that this team hasn't come out of the gate slowly the past 2-3 years.

[Lifetime]

Nope. 

[Ohtaniland]

None of that had any impact on whether or not the Angels finished in the playoffs. The point was, no one in the West had a fast start so those starts were not a major factor in the outcome of the Angels season. 

 

Compared to other MLB teams it's still a crappy start. .500 baseball is not good enough for a $141M team.

[kevinb]

LT I think you like to argue just to argue sometimes. The Angels haven't made the playoffs in 4 years due to a lack of management, front office, players, slow starts, coaching and a lack of direction. People need to be held accountable. If this was the Yankees, Sox or heck even the Dodgers Mike and his coaching staff would be canned and so would the management. If this was a business you were involved in and an owner in you would have fired people. Not kept everyone around or most of the people around. 

[Superfan]

I'm so happy Arte made the right decision and is keeping Mike and Jerry. Kudos to you Mr. Moreno.

[Lifetime]

The payroll litmus is BS Hamiltown. A .500 start was good enough to be right in the mix for the division. It was not a major factor no matter how you try to spin it. It was a start that had them tied in May and 2 games back in June of the AL team that went to the WS. 

[mancini79]

Angels haven't made the playoffs in 4 years. The Angels have had slow starts in the past 4 years. I would say that slow starts are a significant factor.

[Halos of Anaheim]

I'm so happy Arte made the right decision and is keeping Mike and Jerry. Kudos to you Mr. Moreno.

Strong username to post content correlation. Is this Stradling/Lifetimes troll account?

[Lifetime]

Angels haven't made the playoffs in 4 years. The Angels have had slow starts in the past 4 years. I would say that slow starts are a significant factor.

but they really haven't had slow starts the last 4 years

Edited October 10, 2013 by Lifetime

[m0nkey]

How other teams do is irrelevant when talking about slow starts