Industry Opinion on Anthony Rendon & Arte Moreno

[BTH]

Isn’t this the exact same thing @NJHalo said?

Maybe I’m confused, but Chuck posted it as if he heard it despite the wording being the same as NJHalo.

[cals]

2 hours ago, T.G. said:

The context...

It had something to do with the all-star game.  When asked if he was going to watch the game, he said... "No, baseball is boring."

He was trying to be diplomatic.  For example, there are a few in this thread that I find "boring". 

[T.G.]

6 hours ago, Taylor said:

I was told by some here that Rendon is a Christlike figure.

 

6 hours ago, T.G. said:

Link?

So @Taylor - No response?

Typical.

Throw shit against the wall and when someone calls you on it, you become a cricket.

[T.G.]

34 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Isn’t this the exact same thing @NJHalo said?

Maybe I’m confused, but Chuck posted it as if he heard it despite the wording being the same as NJHalo.

You're over thinking it.  There's no conspiracy.  I'm sure Chuck got his information from NJHalo.

NJHalo has shared "inside information" with this board and Chuck before.

[PattyD22]

NJhalo must be from New Jersey, Trout is from New Jersey, so it appears that NJhalo is Mike Trout, and Chuck’s connection is Mike Trout.

Its pretty simple.  Trout hates Rendon.

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, PattyD22 said:

NJhalo must be from New Jersey, Trout is from New Jersey, so it appears that NJhalo is Mike Trout, and Chuck’s connection is Mike Trout.

Its pretty simple.  Trout hates Rendon.

NJHalo has posted that his connection is a "baseball media celeb."

I'm not even sure what a baseball media celeb is.

[PattyD22]

3 minutes ago, T.G. said:

NJHalo has posted that his connection is a "baseball media celeb."

I'm not even sure what a baseball media celeb is.

Probably Bruce Springsteen.

[T.G.]

Just now, PattyD22 said:

Probably Bruce Springsteen.

Glory Days.

[BTH]

8 minutes ago, T.G. said:

NJHalo has posted that his connection is a "baseball media celeb."

I'm not even sure what a baseball media celeb is.

Someone who is viewed as a celebrity by baseball media?

Scott Boras?

[Torridd]

8 hours ago, T.G. said:

Is it really?  I just have a hard time taking this kind of talk seriously when it comes from anonymous sources.  Maybe it is true.  I know the optics on Rendon looks bad, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.  He once said "WATCHING baseball was boring" and people took that and turned it into "he HATES baseball." 

This isn't me defending him.  This is me trying to look at things objectively.  He's had bad luck.  He did something really stupid in Oakland.  I see all that.  Again, the optics look bad.  None of us really know the truth.  And it doesn't help that he won't speak to the media.  I get all that.

I just hope the truth comes out at some point, regardless of what that truth actually is.

I agree and maybe at this point it's self-pity. I mean, all the injuries and the "hate" from the fanbase could cause a player to go the other way. 

[thebloob]

“Given his importance based on the size of his contract he should not play again until he is totally at 100%”

 

- Cal Ripken Jr

[Docwaukee]

Every player should have some level of of self imposed obligation to balance their own needs vs. that of the game/team.  And I'm not saying he should roll over and take some fan being inappropriate but it goes well beyond that.  He doesn't have to be some great ambassador but he does need to recognize and acknowledge that how he acts and what he does impacts his teammates and how people perceive the game of baseball.  If he wants to think that accepting  $245 million doesn't come with anyone other responsibilities than to play baseball then he's a moron or an asshole or both.  

His actions match the hearsay.  If he doesn't give a crap as to how's he's perceived that's fine but it's not on me or any other fan or any of his teammates or the owner that he made a deal with to try and understand where's he's coming from and give him the benefit of the doubt.  It's on him to take a step back and find some perspective as to how this opportunity was available to him in the first place.  And maybe it's because he's too stupid to realize it, but I doubt it.  Which makes purposeful and calculated.  And the fact that he would do that is unfortunate and I can certainly understand how that doesn't sit well with people at all.  

He might disagree, but he owes it to the game to be better.  

[Lazorko Saves]

1 hour ago, T.G. said:

I'm not even sure what a baseball media celeb is.

It's Bob Uecker, obviously.  He's the only one who has ever fit that bizarre title.

[Angel Oracle]

29 minutes ago, Torridd said:

I agree and maybe at this point it's self-pity. I mean, all the injuries and the "hate" from the fanbase could cause a player to go the other way. 

Maybe, but he still needs to put it behind him and get ready for next season.   He’s still owed $114 million, and needs to prove that he at least earns some of it.

[Swordsman78]

5 minutes ago, thebloob said:

“Given his importance based on the size of his contract he should not play again until he is totally at 100%”

 

- Cal Ripken Jr

Rendon should be sued for Breach of Contract.

- Pepsi Points

[Blarg]

47 minutes ago, Lazorko Saves said:

It's Bob Uecker, obviously.  He's the only one who has ever fit that bizarre title.

Oh, contraire.  

[Jay]

2 hours ago, T.G. said:

You're over thinking it.  There's no conspiracy.  I'm sure Chuck got his information from NJHalo.

NJHalo has shared "inside information" with this board and Chuck before.

You're sure?

 

[Revad]

9 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

I don’t hate Rendon, @T.G.. At worst he’s just one of many mercenary athletes. I generally don’t hate other people - except for politicians and other ruling class types, whose actions actually harm others. Tendon’s negative impact is pretty contained.

That’s what they’re doing for a living.  Question is whether any of us would have made a different choice if we were in their shoes

[Revad]

I think I’m going to re-read this thread it’s so much fun.

[T.G.]

35 minutes ago, Jay said:

You're sure?

 

Yes

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, T.G. said:

 

So @Taylor - No response?

Typical.

Throw shit against the wall and when someone calls you on it, you become a cricket.

I bumped the thread. Check out "Rendon with some fire!"

[Vegas Halo Fan]

8 hours ago, T.G. said:

Which is silly because not every advertising/marketing person is like Arte and to assume so is kind of dumb.

Ted Turner was an advertising guy, was in billboards until establishing CNN. Free agency wasn't as big a deal back then, but he was known to decide on his own to throw a lot of money at players in hope that it would inspire them to play better. He also spent money on players who he personally liked. It wasn't until he got out of the way on baseball decisions and let his baseball people call the shots that the Braves became a successful organization.

[Slegnaac]

Here is what doesn't add up for me.

If he is a rotten apple, why did he jump out of the dugout with a cast and start swinging in the bench clearing brawl of 2022?

If he doesn't care about playing why did he come back off the IL at the end of 2022 so he could serve his 10 game suspension in 2022 and not have to miss the first 10 games of 2023?

Did he fool Moreno and Billy into giving him a big payday knowing that he was going to phone it in?

Was he secretly practicing fouling balls off of his shin?

It just doesn't all add up for me.

[jsnpritchett]

12 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

Here is what doesn't add up for me.

If he is a rotten apple, why did he jump out of the dugout with a cast and start swinging in the bench clearing brawl of 2022?

If he doesn't care about playing why did he come back off the IL at the end of 2022 so he could serve his 10 game suspension in 2022 and not have to miss the first 10 games of 2023?

Did he fool Moreno and Billy into giving him a big payday knowing that he was going to phone it in?

Was he secretly practicing fouling balls off of his shin?

It just doesn't all add up for me.

An excerpt from Rendon's favorite poem:

[T.G.]

34 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Ted Turner was an advertising guy, was in billboards until establishing CNN. Free agency wasn't as big a deal back then, but he was known to decide on his own to throw a lot of money at players in hope that it would inspire them to play better. He also spent money on players who he personally liked. It wasn't until he got out of the way on baseball decisions and let his baseball people call the shots that the Braves became a successful organization.

That still doesn't mean every marketing person would be a horrible owner.