Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Angels 1961]

I expect halo news soon

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I expect halo news soon

I think if you say it every day this off-season, you will eventually be right

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, Trendon said:

It's gotten worse the last couple of offseasons, to the point where you can't trust anyone outside of team reporters and news breakers.

Some of the people outside of those two categories may have valid info, but it's too hard to separate those people out.

Obviously you are new at following these rumors. You're "trusted sources" like Rosenthal and Heyman have thrown more darts over the years that can be counted. Heyman has been labeled the Boras mouthpiece, spreading team involvement rumors for free agents that were never even interested. It's all a game of being the first but not worrying about being wrong because nobody keeps score. 

 

[Angels 1961]

6 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I think if you say it every day this off-season, you will eventually be right

BP help tomorrow

[DMVol]

16 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I think if you say it every day this off-season, you will eventually be right

Broken clock is right twice a day…..

[Revad]

If Minasain has $20, he may be waiting on the SS trade market to develop.  That is going to happen, right?  I think if a SP was the focus he would grab what he can get now.  I could see signing a RP but perhaps he has a priority.  

[mmc]

 

[Erstad Grit]

17 minutes ago, DMVol said:

Broken clock is right twice a day…..

Only in America because we don't like numbers past 12

[rafibomb]

26 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Ridiculous 

[Warfarin]

31 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

I do not buy this one.  This seems more like Boras trying to stir the pot.  

[Angelsfan1984]

To be fair…they went Black Friday shopping in July. They spent a ton of money so far without improving all that much. 

[mmc]

7 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I do not buy this one.  This seems more like Boras trying to stir the pot.  

Rosenthal doesn’t really do that.  If he’s writing a whole article dedicated to a specific connection, there’s merit to it

[CanadianHalo]

Cohen latest liked tweet is one about him signing Correa

Good for Cohen. If other owners don’t like it they could simply stop him by signing these players themselves 

Cohen is probably part of the reason why Arte is selling so thank you Steve

[Warfarin]

12 minutes ago, mmc said:

Rosenthal doesn’t really do that.  If he’s writing a whole article dedicated to a specific connection, there’s merit to it

Maybe.. I don't know.  Even Cohen has to have his limits.  Adding another 30+ mil AAV player, just hard to see it, especially when he already has Lindor at SS locked up for many years.

[totdprods]

29 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Maybe.. I don't know.  Even Cohen has to have his limits.  Adding another 30+ mil AAV player, just hard to see it, especially when he already has Lindor at SS locked up for many years.

They’re taking a page right out of the Dodgers playbook, and so far it’s looking pretty savvy.

Dramatically boost payroll to gin up fan interest, fan money, and ideally wins. They haven’t really lost draft picks or dealt away much of their farm - so they’ve continued to build a cheap future. This has also allowed them to let some players walk - collecting comp picks rather than losing picks. The only thing they haven’t really done that the Dodgers were good at would be buying prospects by taking bad contracts, and that’s something that I think they would be doing if more teams were willing to sell prospects these days.

The big part of the equation that’s unknown is if they can build and develop talent like the Dodgers have done. Otherwise, they’re taking a very similar approach.

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

They’re taking a page right out of the Dodgers playbook, and so far it’s looking pretty savvy.

Dramatically boost payroll to gin up fan interest, fan money, and ideally wins. They haven’t really lost draft picks or dealt away much of their farm - so they’ve continued to build a cheap future. This has also allowed them to let some players walk - collecting comp picks rather than losing picks. The only thing they haven’t really done that the Dodgers were good at would be buying prospects by taking bad contracts, and that’s something that I think they would be doing if more teams were willing to sell prospects these days.

The big part of the equation that’s unknown is if they can build and develop talent like the Dodgers have done. Otherwise, they’re taking a very similar approach.

Cohen said he wanted to be "Dodgers East," I think, when he bought the team.  So I guess that is what we are seeing unfold.  The only thing though is the Dodgers acquired the best GM in baseball when it comes to building a prospect infrastructure.  We'll see if Eppler can recreate the same thing in NY.

Regardless, as I said in the other thread, this is what I hope our future is - whoever takes over has the same general approach of increasing payroll while ultimately funding a buildout of a powerhouse prospect farm system.

[bloodbrother]

Cohen flexing on every other owner in the league. The tax hit gonna be higher than half of MLB teams payrolls at this rate

[Lazorko Saves]

5 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

Confreres

[mmc]

 

[Warfarin]

Just now, mmc said:

 

There it is!  Giants seemed like the favorites, and they got it done.

[angelsnationtalk]

3 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Cohen flexing on every other owner in the league. The tax hit gonna be higher than half of MLB teams payrolls at this rate

Although his network is wayyyyy more than anyone else...

but it's nice to see an owner WANT to win and has said he will do whatever it takes. We all know these owners can easily afford going past the tax. 

The amount of money they earn for marketing these players and getting butts in the seats more than justifies the financial moves.

[angelsnationtalk]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

$26.9 AAV.

I'd give Swanson the extra years for a lower AAV

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

13 years. Good lord... Ohtani about to get 15/600 at this rate...'I'm being sarcastic...I think..

[tdawg87]

We really gonna whiff on all 4 shortstops this offseason.

[m0nkey]

Look forward to correa at dodger stadium for 13 years