David Fletcher

[Deek]

For me - Fletch is a great piece to fit in a healthy and solid line-up that's clicking.  A line-up that includes: Trout, Ohtani, Rendon, Rengifo, Walsh...

 

If you're counting on him as a centerpiece in a thin line-up (see last night), you're going to be disappointed and frustrated...

 

You need these types of pieces to make a deep run in the playoffs (think S. Speizio, M. Lemke, K. Lofton, C. Taylor, etc)... guys that put the ball in play and make things happen...

[Angel Oracle]

First four games back:

5-14 with 2 doubles and a HR, only 1 K

[GrittyVeterans]

Fletcher is a 2-3 WAR player in my opinion. Good enough to start but preferably a utility guy on a team with playoff aspirations

 

we have much bigger problems than him

[Blarg]

9 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Fletcher is a 2-3 WAR player in my opinion. Good enough to start but preferably a utility guy on a team with playoff aspirations

 

we have much bigger problems than him

Ok, let's take that 2-3 war player and put him into a lineup where every player achieves 2-3 war. There are no Trout's, or Ohtani's at DH, just 2-3 war players in every lineup card. How many wins over a straight 162 game season does that lend itself to?

A 2-3 war player is not a platoon player. You guys have lost your collective minds as to how many teams have a lineup card where they can bench a 2-3 war player.

[Swordsman78]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

First four games back:

5-14 with 2 doubles and a HR, only 1 K

@Dtwncbad is to busy chomping on his OP to respond I guess.

[Swordsman78]

Fletcher's splits

Duration	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	AVG	OBP	SLG
Last 7 Games	22	2	7	2	8	0	1	0	.318	.348	.636
Last 15 Games	48	6	13	2	11	1	3	0	.271	.300	.458
Last 30 Games	70	6	17	2	12	3	4	0	.243	.284	.429

Duration
Last 7 Games
Last 15 Games
Last 30 Games

 

[Docwaukee]

Serious props to David.  I had totally given up on the guy but he's looking like the Fletch of a couple years ago.  

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

Serious props to David.  I had totally given up on the guy but he's looking like the Fletch of a couple years ago.  

[tdawg87]

I wrote him off as well.

Seeing him return to form is huge. 

[Angels 1961]

OK, MIF set for next year Fletcher, Rengifo and Velaquez.

[happybat4]

On 8/3/2022 at 4:05 PM, Deek said:

For me - Fletch is a great piece to fit in a healthy and solid line-up that's clicking.  A line-up that includes: Trout, Ohtani, Rendon, Rengifo, Walsh...

 

If you're counting on him as a centerpiece in a thin line-up (see last night), you're going to be disappointed and frustrated...

 

You need these types of pieces to make a deep run in the playoffs (think S. Speizio, M. Lemke, K. Lofton, C. Taylor, etc)... guys that put the ball in play and make things happen...

I get your point, but you do realize Kenny Lofton was a perennial all star much better than those other guys you mentioned. If the Angels had a Kenny Lofton we would be light years better and score way more runs. 

[Inside Pitch]

12 minutes ago, happybat4 said:

I get your point, but you do realize Kenny Lofton was a perennial all star much better than those other guys you mentioned. If the Angels had a Kenny Lofton we would be light years better and score way more runs. 

Kenny Lofton was criminally underrated.  10th best bWAR among CFers, but he played in the middle of the steroid era and his HR totals were human so people think he was some slappy David Eckstein type.

Absolute witch defensively too.

[tdawg87]

6 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kenny Lofton was criminally underrated.  10th best bWAR among CFers, but he played in the middle of the steroid era and his HR totals were human so people think he was some slappy David Eckstein type.

Absolute witch defensively too.

Thank god for that because his flyout in Game 7 looked like a HR off the bat to me. 

Granted I had only been really following baseball for a few years before that but at the time...

[Stradling]

Should I start a thread comparing Lofton to Ichiro?

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Should I start a thread comparing Lofton to Ichiro?

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Lofton was a great player. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 7/29/2022 at 3:39 PM, Dtwncbad said:

I am basing it off Fletcher has sucked for a long time now and I think the optimism that Fletcher coming back means anything positive for the lineup is foolish.  He can’t hit.

he's healthy and and has the highest BA on the team.

.340/

.377/

.450/

.827 since the ASB

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Lofton was a great player. 

I agree.

[Dtwncbad]

48 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

he's healthy and and has the highest BA on the team.

.340/

.377/

.450/

.827 since the ASB

I am happy to see it!

[Taylor]

48 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

he's healthy and and has the highest BA on the team.

.340/

.377/

.450/

.827 since the ASB

Is that good

[CaliAngel]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

OK, MIF set for next year Fletcher, Rengifo and Velaquez.

I love Velazquez out in the field as much as anybody pairing up with Fletcher, but we cannot have that glaring hole in the batting order.

[BTH]

5 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

Serious props to David.  I had totally given up on the guy but he's looking like the Fletch of a couple years ago.  

I’d still like to see him take more walks, but it’s not a big deal if he’s just hitting like he is since returning from the IL (138 wRC+).

[BTH]

1 minute ago, CaliAngel said:

I love Velazquez out in the field as much as anybody pairing up with Fletcher, but we cannot have that glaring hole in the batting order.

Yep.

Maybe Velazquez can be a utility infielder next year, but he’s out of options and ideally Rengifo is the utility infielder with Fletcher at 2B and a new SS.

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

OK, MIF set for next year Fletcher, Rengifo and Velaquez.

With Rendon at third and presumably Walsh back at first, who’s going to sit?

[failos]

2 minutes ago, Tank said:

With Rendon at third and presumably Walsh back at first, who’s going to sit?

Velasquez and eventually Rendon when he gets injured again.