The Official Tyler Skaggs Trial (News & Notes) Thread (Eric Kay found GUILTY on both charges)

[UndertheHalo]

My suspicion is that drug use similar to what was going on with the Angels is probably pretty prevalent around Major League Baseball.  I doubt this is a unique situation.  
 

Whether someone like carpino should be shit canned or not because of this.  I can’t say.  I don’t know enough.  I think from a baseball perspective.  The people who run the organization suck and should go away.  That’s neither here nor there I guess for the topic of the thread. 

Edited February 15, 2022 by UndertheHalo

[TroutField]

2 hours ago, floplag said:

I have yet to hear anything that suggests anyone in the front office should have or did know anything.
They went to great lengths to hide what they were doing, putting it in shoes and such...
Assuming they knew doenst represent facts in evidence, at least not what ive read if anyone has read otherwise, please correct this. 

ESPN reported Kay’s assistant went to Carpino the day after Tyler died and told him Kay had confessed to doing drugs with Tyler the night prior but stated he did not provide the drugs. 
 

a lot of finger pointing and cover ups. 

[Don]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

Ok, kind of off point.  But will all these opioid and cocaine use.  Doesn't MLB have drug testing?  How the heck does none of this get discovered?

Opioids and cocaine don't stay in your urine at detectable levels for all that long either. Obviously testing thresholds matter in results, but it's well within the realm of possibility to use either of those on a Friday and test clean on a Monday.

[Chuck]

This guy has the best coverage on this trial.

 

[mmc]

 

[DCAngelsFan]

5 hours ago, nate said:

No, I got his point. It also isn't his job to watch after the welfare of his file clerk.

And again, this isn't just the file clerk, this is his assistant manager, and his assistant manager dealing to half the office.

In fact, it is more like you dealing drugs to the other INO store managers and having one of the stores burn down because the manager was too high to safely manage the store. If that were the case, you don't think your boss would get fired? INO also has thousands and thousands of employees. Angels have about a hundred who have a significant impact on the outcome of the season that they invest hundreds of millions of dollars on.

You do realize that such supervision is controlled by the terms of the CBA, and is performed under the terms of the JDA by the MLB/JDP?   

That is, the Angels can't test their players for drug use?  

California law also restricts testing of existing employees.  

I mean, what did you want them to do?  Put spyware on their phones and see if they're arranging drug buys?  Hire PD's to follow their players?   Test clubhouse urine on the sly for illegal drugs?

You can't violate people's privacy rights without reason "for their own good" and surveilling players is going to do wonders for player morale.

I have plenty of issues with Angels management, but I haven't seen any evidence that suggests this is on them ..

 

 

 

[mmc]

 

[Blarg]

This was already posted MMC. We don't need a run of duplicate tweets.

[Taylor]

Lou's file clerk:

[mmc]

10 minutes ago, Blarg said:

This was already posted MMC. We don't need a run of duplicate tweets.

I didn’t realize what Chuck posted autoembeds new tweets as they come in

[Jason]

1 hour ago, failos said:

What a shit show

Kind of like watching 2 Girls 1 Cup 

[failos]

43 minutes ago, Jason said:

Kind of like watching 2 Girls 1 Cup 

I remember that shit. It’s permanently seared in my brain.

[Don]

1 minute ago, failos said:

I remember that shit. It’s permanently seared in my brain.

Good choice of words there.

[Inside Pitch]

4 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Ok, kind of off point.  But will all these opioid and cocaine use.  Doesn't MLB have drug testing?  How the heck does none of this get discovered?

Coke you figure would be a red flag, but pain killers are probably very commonly used by guys with legit injuries.  

[Lou]

5 hours ago, Tank said:

by nate's reasoning, the presidents of the giants, cardinals, and cubs should've been fired when bonds, macgwire, and sosa were taking steroids and chasing hallowed records.

the original post feels more like a vendetta against carpino for whatever reasons.

It is. Nate hates Carpino. 

[Lou]

7 hours ago, failos said:

I’m not a fan of Carpino, but the premise of this thread is stupid. Why would Carpino turn a blind eye to an employee selling drugs to a player? If he had known he would’ve fired Kay on the spot. Good bosses don’t micromanage to the level of knowing every detail of their employees’ lives.

Because Nate hates Carpino.

[ten ocho recon scout]

18 hours ago, Lou said:

I have no idea if my file clerk uses opioids. Quite frankly, as long as she shows up to work and remembers the alphabet, i don't really care. 

Lou firing his last file clerk

 

[Lou]

"The Dewey Decimal System, what a scam that was. Boy, that Dewey guy really cleaned up on that deal."

- Kramer

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

My suspicion is that drug use similar to what was going on with the Angels is probably pretty prevalent around Major League Baseball.  I doubt this is a unique situation.  

X1000

 

Right out front, it says here Skaggs was using before he got here, so was Harvey

 

So do plenty of other guys youll never hear about.

Fact. If Skaggs didnt get fent, he'd still be here. And nobody would have any idea he and Harvey partied. Plain and simple. (Much less have heard of Eric Kay)

And Id still be hesitant to call Kay "Mr Big". Kay is merely an addict. He had hookups. It was easy for Skaggs (and Im sure others) to use him to score, easier than having to go somewhere and get it themselves. And Id assume here Kay's fee was scoring dope for himself, not money.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Kind of like watching 2 Girls 1 Cup 

Maybe 7 years after that came out, I was shocked some guy at work had never heard of it. (I didnt get ambushed by it until like the whole world had seen it)

 

So after ruining his life w it, I bragged to another guy at work how I ambushed the first guy. He said "huh, never heard of that"

 

And i got a second victim. Same night. Like years after the world was destroyed by it.

One of those better days at work

[Lou]

I heard about it. 

Have never seen it. 

[Blarg]

Don't.

[Don]

@ten ocho recon scout I believe you owe @Lou a PM with a link.

[Jason]

47 minutes ago, Lou said:

I heard about it. 

Have never seen it. 

 

19 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Don't.

Don’t be a wuss Lou. Get yourself some rocky road ice cream and turn it on 

[Taylor]

In college, the guys in my dorm would prank each other by setting people's web browser home pages as 2 Girls 1 Cup, Meat Spin, or Lemon Party. They'd open their web browser and be in for a surprise.

Never happened to me, thankfully.