The Official Tyler Skaggs Trial (News & Notes) Thread (Eric Kay found GUILTY on both charges)

[jsnpritchett]

22 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

10 minutes ago, Blarg said:

And people wonder why the Angels core of young pitchers were inconsistent.  

Think about how many times you watched our pitchers, and were like "man, this guy sucks d*ck"

 

And then you wonder how many of them actually had to, to pay for their habit.

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Think about how many times you watched our pitchers, and were like "man, this guy sucks d*ck"

 

And then you wonder how many of them actually had to, to pay for their habit.

This may explain why Skaggs used the term "loosey goosey" 

[nate]

Carpino, as team president was responsible for Eric Kay, even if he was only an assistant. The rampant opioid use and dealing from within the organization is sickening.

[mmc]

 

[Stradling]

I think it is silly to assume he should have known.  Should your CFO be fired if there was a drug issue inside your company?  

[Blarg]

Well, he didn't die of Covid, that much is for sure. 

[nate]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think it is silly to assume he should have known.  Should your CFO be fired if there was a drug issue inside your company?  

This isn't some junior staffer, this is Kay's bosses boss.

[Jason]

I'd like to assume that the players with addiction problems kept it under wraps from the rest of the org. If the org did know about what was going on and did nothing then that is a huge problem. People that have a soul wouldn't allow that to go on unchecked. 

[Docwaukee]

14 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think it is silly to assume he should have known.  Should your CFO be fired if there was a drug issue inside your company?  

He's not the CFO.  But your point is taken.  

[Lou]

If there was any chance Carpino knew, he sure as hell would have been named in the lawsuit.

[Docwaukee]

42 minutes ago, Lou said:

If there was any chance Carpino knew, he sure as hell would have been named in the lawsuit.

He might be named in the civil suit.  Or at least they might depose him.  

[Docwaukee]

And Carpino is about as protected as anyone in the Angel org.  He's not likely to be held responsible for anything.  Even though he's probably been one of the main people deciding on the last four GMs.  

[nate]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

If there was any chance Carpino knew, he sure as hell would have been named in the lawsuit.

The fact that he didn't know doesn't absolve him, it was happening right under his nose. If anything it is worse, shows how little control he has.

To the previous CFO comment. If a company was embroiled in a financial scandal and senior management that reported up to the CFO were implicated, you can be certain the CFO would be ousted.

[Blarg]

This is a silly thread. Kay was a lying weasel and covered his tracks like lying weasel drug addicts do. To look two levels above his station in the organization and say that person should have known is asinine. 

Also, Kay has worked for the Angels for 23 years. That pre dates Moreno as owner and Carpino as President. 

[Lou]

11 minutes ago, nate said:

The fact that he didn't know doesn't absolve him, it was happening right under his nose. If anything it is worse, shows how little control he has.

To the previous CFO comment. If a company was embroiled in a financial scandal and senior management that reported up to the CFO were implicated, you can be certain the CFO would be ousted.

Not true. 

[Stradling]

35 minutes ago, nate said:

The fact that he didn't know doesn't absolve him, it was happening right under his nose. If anything it is worse, shows how little control he has.

To the previous CFO comment. If a company was embroiled in a financial scandal and senior management that reported up to the CFO were implicated, you can be certain the CFO would be ousted.

So your bosses boss should know if you have a drug problem?  

[nate]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

This is a silly thread. Kay was a lying weasel and covered his tracks like lying weasel drug addicts do. To look two levels above his station in the organization and say that person should have known is asinine. 

Also, Kay has worked for the Angels for 23 years. That pre dates Moreno as owner and Carpino as President. 

Also doesn't matter. They were responsible while it was happening. This is no small thing, a leader has to take responsibility for the people that work for them. This isn't sleeping with a players wife, this is dozens of felonies and one contributed to the death of a player.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Also doesn't matter. They were responsible while it was happening. This is no small thing, a leader has to take responsibility for the people that work for them. This isn't sleeping with a players wife, this is dozens of felonies and one contributed to the death of a player.

I have no idea if you are in management but if you are should you be fired if someone two levels below you sells drugs to another employee?  

[nate]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I have no idea if you are in management but if you are should you be fired if someone two levels below you sells drugs to another employee?  

A manager's job isn't only giving reviews and approving PTO. The well being of your employees, especially if it impacts their performance in their job, is absolutely in your purview.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, nate said:

A manager's job isn't only giving reviews and approving PTO. The well being of your employees, especially if it impacts their performance in their job, is absolutely in your purview.

So yes?  You should be fired if your subordinates subordinate sells drugs to another employee?  

[Lou]

19 minutes ago, nate said:

 this is dozens of felonies 

Can you tell us what these are? 

[nate]

21 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So yes?  You should be fired if your subordinates subordinate sells drugs to another employee?  

FFS

Someone died, multiple players had drug problems, and an employee was dealing the drugs to them. You are telling me that it isn't willful ignorance? They had no compliance in place where any of the 10+ players and employees reported it?

You don't think leaders are held accountable for compliance when it's extremely serious crimes.

[nate]

12 minutes ago, Lou said:

Can you tell us what these are? 

Every single time he sold drugs to one of the players it's a felony. You can do the math pretty fast.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, nate said:

Every single time he sold drugs to one of the players it's a felony. You can do the math pretty fast.

When dealers are charged, they aren't charged with thousands of felony counts of distributing narcotics.