At what point does the team need to seriously consider moving Ohtani?

[mmc]

If things remain status quo for the Angels over the next 2 years (and I see no reason to believe they won't), and they remain a fringe playoff team, and Ohtani can't get an extension finalized, at what point does the team need to start seriously listening to offers?

[Stradling]

As soon as he turns down our best offer then you consider trading him.  By the way he will sign an extension and I am not at all worried about retaining him.

[Revad]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

As soon as he turns down our best offer then you consider trading him.  By the way he will sign an extension and I am not at all worried about retaining him.

If Ohtani tells the team he’s not interested in an extension, perhaps because things remain status quo , then by all means get the best trade deal.  The best way to make sure he stays is to win, of course.  As in make the playoffs and win some games.  Just add another four quality players (one of each of SP, RF, SS and C).

[AngelsLakersFan]

The Angels will give him an extension and he and Trout will continue to carry a crappy team to somewhere around the .500 mark for the next five or six years.

[T.G.]

I thought mmc just visited Canada. I had no idea he was actually Canadian.

[eligrba]

This would be an organizational dagger.

[failos]

I’d stop supporting this team if they dumped Ohtani.

[fan_since79]

16 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

The Angels will give him an extension and he and Trout will continue to carry a crappy team to somewhere around the .500 mark for the next five or six years.

My fear is that you might be right. 

[floplag]

IF things remain status quo for the next 1-2 years, you trade everyone as this team wont win again for a very long time if it cant or isnt willing to with this roster of players.

[UndertheHalo]

17 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

The Angels will give him an extension and he and Trout will continue to carry a crappy team to somewhere around the .500 mark for the next five or six years.

In my heart I feel this.  

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, failos said:

I’d stop supporting this team if they dumped Ohtani.

So would I.

 

But then like three days later I'd probably be back.

[failos]

59 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So would I.

 

But then like three days later I'd probably be back.

Probably. I’ll still go to some games, but I’d definitely stop going to as many. Shohei is the only exciting aspect of this team other than Trout.

[Dtwncbad]

If Ohtani will ultimately not sign an extension, then Carpino knew this (or should have known this) prior to Ohtani getting here and he should be fired.

[AngelsLakersFan]

9 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

My fear is that you might be right. 

 

8 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

In my heart I feel this.  

The only reason it's not obvious is because we don't want to believe it's true.

 

[UndertheHalo]

59 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

 

The only reason it's not obvious is because we don't want to believe it's true.

 

Very sad 

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 2/14/2022 at 5:15 PM, AngelsLakersFan said:

The Angels will give him an extension and he and Trout will continue to carry a crappy team to somewhere around the .500 mark for the next five or six years.

Not if Trout keeps getting hurt

 

[Angels 1961]

Right after they trade Trout follow that with trade of Ohtani rebuild this team.

[Tank]

We’re going to have these threads constantly until he signs a new contract or gets traded. It’ll be similar to Trout signing with the Yankees/Phillies, and it’s going to suck nonstop until that moment.

I don’t get why so many want to even think about this happening instead of focusing on the season before us.

[Revad]

20 minutes ago, Tank said:

We’re going to have these threads constantly until he signs a new contract or gets traded. It’ll be similar to Trout signing with the Yankees/Phillies, and it’s going to suck nonstop until that moment.

I don’t get why so many want to even think about this happening instead of focusing on the season before us.

That would make sense and will be easier if there is a season.

[HanfordGuy]

You and me
We're gonna be better than we were before
I loved you then but now I intend
To open up and love you even more
This time you can be sure

I'm never gonna let Ohtani go
I'm gonna hold you in my arms forever
Gonna try and make up for all the times
I missed the game

[IheartLA]

The Mets will prob offer him a record breaking contract if he waits. If I’m Ohtani I try to get $400-500M since Cohen has an unlimited budget.

If he stays here and he gets paid anywhere near his true value the team’s payroll is gonna be tied down for the next decade and we are still going to be mediocre most likely since we are so top heavy with injury prone stars and a bad farm system. 

With the Mets/Dodgers he knows he can get paid what he’s worth and the team will still add whatever it takes to win. 

[Inside Pitch]

A year ago some were viewing him as a bust.  Arm wasn't ready, bat took a step back.  Ohtani is a case study in trusting the process, and the talent.

[Stradling]

Ohtani has been amazing for one year yet it feels like people treat him like he’s Trout. If they trade him (not dump him), which they won’t, then he made it clear he wasn’t coming back. I’d put him being extended at about 80%.  He will be an Angel for a long time. 

[failos]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

A year ago some were viewing him as a bust.  Arm wasn't ready, bat took a step back.  Ohtani is a case study in trusting the process, and the talent.

It’s hard to trust the process when we’ve been hurt so many times. I’d say it was understandable to be skeptical of Ohtani after all his injuries.

[Taylor]

10 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

 

The only reason it's not obvious is because we don't want to believe it's true.