What FA SS will the Halos sign in off-season?

[T.G.]

10 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Brandon Crawford 

Said the Giants fan.

[totdprods]

I forgot about Crawford but think he would be a solid option on a 1 or 2 year deal too and likely wouldn't cost as much as Semien.

Not sure the Giants let him walk though...could also see the Yankees making a play for him since they could use SS help and he wouldn't come with a huge price-tag, plus I think Gerrit Cole is his bro-in-law.

[Junkballer]

With Vera, Paris and Jackson in the pipeline it will be someone who will accept 1-2 year contract for under 4m per and is a "good clubhouse guy".  Sounds like Iglesias to me.

[Angel Oracle]

Sounds like I need to have this thread locked and create another poll from the start that includes all of the key FA SSs?

[Jeff Fletcher]

5 hours ago, True Grich said:

Said the Giants fan.

Me?

I’m not a Giants fan

[T.G.]

 

[Taylor]

Hopefully not Rengifo.

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Me?

I’m not a Giants fan

Orioles? 

[Dtwncbad]

[Angel Oracle]

Here’s a candidate who’s as good as any SS not on the upper tier.

Miguel Rojas
Much better in the overall defense rankings than Iglesias, and also has around a .750 OPS since 2019.

Marlins own team option for 2022 ($5.5 million salary, $500k buyout).

Any hope that they buy him out?

Would be a perfect 2-3 years bridge to Paris/Vera without breaking the bank.

[greginpsca]

55 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Here’s a candidate who’s as good as any SS not on the upper tier.

Miguel Rojas
Much better in the overall defense rankings than Iglesias, and also has around a .750 OPS since 2019.

Marlins own team option for 2022 ($5.5 million salary, $500k buyout).

Any hope that they buy him out?

Would be a perfect 2-3 years bridge to Paris/Vera without breaking the bank.

I could see them take on the team option. But, i doubt they would pay him the buyout and let him become a FA. I think they would take the team option, then trade him for prospects. They just don't pay guys that much. Without even looking to see what their payroll is, i bet it is under $45 mil.  Their history is to flip  these type players for guys who make mlb minimum.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

And the Giants extend Crawford.... 2 years!

 

Someone from GiantsWin must had told Scott Harris we were talking their guy up!

[beatlesrule]

On 8/11/2021 at 7:26 AM, Jeff Fletcher said:

Brandon Crawford 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/08/giants-sign-brandon-crawford-to-two-year-32mm-extension.html

Nope.

[totdprods]

20 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Here’s a candidate who’s as good as any SS not on the upper tier.

Miguel Rojas
Much better in the overall defense rankings than Iglesias, and also has around a .750 OPS since 2019.

Marlins own team option for 2022 ($5.5 million salary, $500k buyout).

Any hope that they buy him out?

Would be a perfect 2-3 years bridge to Paris/Vera without breaking the bank.

I think he’d be a fantastic target but the Marlins *love* him and his presence on the team. So even if you can get them to part with him, he might require an overpay, and not sure he’s worth overpaying for.

I actually would love to see the Angels and Marlins pair up for a sizeable mega-swap this winter. Perry was with the Blue Jays when they did at least three deals that involved like, 7-10 players combined, a mixture of vets, prospects, pre/early-arb question marks, etc. and I think that could be a better deal than the Marsh for Meyer.

Call them up and talk Meyer, Rojas, Bender, Cooper, Floro, Alfaro and see if perhaps we line up with some of our guys that don’t quite fit - Rengifo, Lund, Thaiss, Rojas - and address a few needs for each team all at once.

[failos]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

I actually would love to see the Angels and Marlins pair up for a sizeable mega-swap this winter.

Gross

[aznhockeyguy]

Offensive isn't the problem with the Angels.  If I was GM, I would spend maybe 4-5 million max on SS and use any available funds on pitching.  Iglesias is worth -WAR due to his terrible fielding.  I vote for someone like Freddy Galvis or Ehrie Adrianza if you want a bit more bat.  I don't think Rojas will be available with the way he's playing this year and if he is not picked up by the Marlins will most likely be asking above what I would be willing to pay.

[IheartLA]

all of these players are out of our price range, we will most likely grab a guy for $3-5M

if nobody wants Simmons I wouldn't mind him back on a 1yr deal at that price, or even resigning Iggy. 

just no to Rengifo playing any major part in the squad

[beatlesrule]

45 minutes ago, IheartLA said:

all of these players are out of our price range, we will most likely grab a guy for $3-5M

if nobody wants Simmons I wouldn't mind him back on a 1yr deal at that price, or even resigning Iggy. 

just no to Rengifo playing any major part in the squad

Blasphemy! Billy Eppler traded CJ Cron for him.

[Stradling]

Someone’s feelings are hurt. 

[Revad]

Mark Polishuk chat on MLBTrade Rumors:  https://www.jotcast.com/chat/mlbtr-live-chat-11219.html

 

Barrelman

8:35

Semien has been excellent in Toronto. Qualifying offer with eyes towards working out a long term deal?

 

Mark P

8:37

I have to imagine the Jays have interest in retaining Semien.  A QO is a no-brainer, and Semien will naturally turn it down to look for a longer-term offer from the Jays or another team on the open market.

With Biggio's struggles and Austin Martin no longer being on the roster, the Jays no longer have the young infield depth they seemingly had a surplus of going into the season.  Groshans and Orelvis notwithstanding, the Jays might prefer to just lock in a respected veteran and make Semien an offer he can't refuse

[totdprods]

Semien makes lots of sense but I think he’s going to get offered a contract way too good elsewhere to try and top. Wouldn’t surprise me if he got a 4-5 year deal topping $100m and that’s way too much for the Angels to pay. 

Gotta say I really wish the Angels could find a way to acquire Taylor Walls (maybe with Kiermaier for Griffin Canning?) or Isaiah Kiner-Falefa. A legit young SS with plus-plus defense and some average offense that could get better. Rays are loaded with SS talent. It would cost a lot in trade but shores up that position for a couple years so we can quit spending money - even little money - on SS before their defense drops off. 

Have a feeling the Angels might kick the tires on Gleyber Torres too. Based off that rumor of the Angels asking about Judge, the Heaney trade, the murmurs of Luke Voit being mentioned in trade talks, the Yankees need for guys like Cobb and Iglesias, the Yankees need to trim payroll, the talk that Perry had a go-ahead to add more expensive players…something tells me the Angels and Yankees have had a lot of talks since Perry came on board and some of that will pick back up this winter. There are creative options out there and we shouldn’t just always default to mega-deal or cheap stopgaps.

Edited August 16, 2021 by totdprods

[angelsnationtalk]

I'd take Seager over anyone if we had to "sign" someone. 

Quite honestly, I'm content with re-signing Iglesias. Solid bat, solid glove, but most importantly, he's got great team chemistry with this squad. 

He's a spark plug and fun to be around. 

[Angel Oracle]

15 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

I'd take Seager over anyone if we had to "sign" someone. 

Quite honestly, I'm content with re-signing Iglesias. Solid bat, solid glove, but most importantly, he's got great team chemistry with this squad. 

He's a spark plug and fun to be around. 

The one down side is the lack of range at SS.   Only committed 4 errors over the past 2.5 months, but does the lack of range supersede that?

[angelsnationtalk]

11 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

The one down side is the lack of range at SS.   Only committed 4 errors over the past 2.5 months, but does the lack of range supersede that?

Yeah, but Seager isn't the best either. You'd basically be paying only for his bat. 

Might as well save the money and retain Iglesias. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Yeah, but Seager isn't the best either. You'd basically be paying only for his bat. 

Might as well save the money and retain Iglesias. 

Agree that Seager would be a poor investment, given the additional pitching needs plus Seager’s injury past.