The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[mmc]

 

[Erstad Grit]

18 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Imagine choosing to pitch in Texas over San Diego.

In High School I was given the option of sitting on the bench and never playing on JV or starting on Fros/Soph and I chose to play. 

[tdawg87]

54 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

In High School I was given the option of sitting on the bench and never playing on JV or starting on Fros/Soph and I chose to play. 

If they wanted to offer him money, they would have found a spot for him. 

[stormngt]

On 12/25/2020 at 2:57 PM, Second Base said:

I'd be fine taking on Moustakas to lower the protect capital in acquiring Castillo. Moose goes to 1B where he's adequate defensively, and Walsh moves out to RF. If he hits, we've got a new #2 hitter and starting corner OF.

Walsh and Ward could make up a good platoon team.

Edited December 28, 2020 by stormngt

[Second Base]

41 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Wash and Ward could make up a good platoon team.

Absolutely, and they're both young and talented enough that there's some potential for either of them to develop into more than a platoon player.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Walsh is the starting 1st baseman in 2021. I think that's clear.

[Second Base]

Padres and Cubs discussed Darvish. 

[tdawg87]

7 hours ago, Second Base said:

Padres and Cubs discussed Darvish. 

[Stradling]

 

[nando714]

My guess is Bauer heads to SD next 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, nando714 said:

My guess is Bauer heads to SD next 

I think there’s virtually no chance of that happening. 

[nando714]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I think there’s virtually no chance of that happening. 

Then the Mets. Anywhere but the Angels or Dodgers. 
 

and why is it impossible for him to go to San Diego ?

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Then the Mets. Anywhere but the Angels or Dodgers. 
 

and why is it impossible for him to go to San Diego ?

They aren’t a huge market team and they’ve given contracts to Manny and Hosmer recently.  They are still paying Myers.  Snell, while affordable is still about $13 million a year I believe.  They’ll also have a ton of guys to start paying soon. Obviously I could be wrong, but that is my reasoning. 

[angelsnationtalk]

The Rays have lost Snell and Morton so far....
OPTOMISTIC TAKE:

If the Angels can get Bauer and swap a trade for one of Castillo/Gray/Marquez then the ALCS/NLCS could look like this

Padres vs Braves

White Sox vs Angels

[mmc]

Still much too early to try to determine the competitive landscape for next season.  Most big free agents have yet to sign 

[Second Base]

If that's the going rate for Blake Snell, the price for Luis Castillo had to easily be Adell, Rengifo, Kochanowicz and Jam Jones, minimum.

[angelsnationtalk]

9 minutes ago, Second Base said:

If that's the going rate for Blake Snell, the price for Luis Castillo had to easily be Adell, Rengifo, Kochanowicz and Jam Jones, minimum.

If we can sub out Kochanowicz then I'd honestly do this in a heartbeat. 

[Pancake Bear]

43 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

The Rays have lost Snell and Morton so far....
OPTOMISTIC TAKE:

If the Angels can get Bauer and swap a trade for one of Castillo/Gray/Marquez then the ALCS/NLCS could look like this

Padres vs Braves

White Sox vs Angels

Dodgers are still the best team in the Nl until someone proves otherwise. I'll believe it when I see it. Sox and Angels haven't proven anything yet. I wouldn't bet on either being prohibitive favorites, even in that scenario you outlined. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

1 hour ago, angelsnationtalk said:

The Rays have lost Snell and Morton so far....
OPTOMISTIC TAKE:

If the Angels can get Bauer and swap a trade for one of Castillo/Gray/Marquez then the ALCS/NLCS could look like this

Padres vs Braves

White Sox vs Angels

lamo the two younger pitchers that the Ray's got will probably turn out into aces.

[Second Base]

65 pages and the Angels still haven't brought in anyone without the last name Iglesias. 

[Cosmo_Kramer]

2 hours ago, Second Base said:

If that's the going rate for Blake Snell, the price for Luis Castillo had to easily be Adell, Rengifo, Kochanowicz and Jam Jones, minimum.

Castillo more. Gray less.

Trade for Gray.

Sign Bauer.

[tdawg87]

2 hours ago, angelsnationtalk said:

If we can sub out Kochanowicz then I'd honestly do this in a heartbeat. 

No shit.

[Docwaukee]

5 hours ago, Second Base said:

If that's the going rate for Blake Snell, the price for Luis Castillo had to easily be Adell, Rengifo, Kochanowicz and Jam Jones, minimum.

even more than that if we don't take on a bad contract with Castillo.  Like Adell, Fletcher, Detmers and maybe still Kochanowicz.  

[tdawg87]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

even more than that if we don't take on a bad contract with Castillo.  Like Adell, Fletcher, Detmers and maybe still Kochanowicz.  

Yeah that's gonna be a no from me, dog.

[Warfarin]

Hat tip to the Padres for that trade.  We couldn't have beaten that offer.  Patino is a top 10 prospect in the sport, and it took more than just him to secure the deal.

We would have likely had to have given up Adell, Marsh, Detmers, or something along those lines.  Padres gave up a 60 FV pitcher, a 45 FV pitcher, a 45 FV catcher, and a current MLB catcher - their 2nd, 9th, and 10th prospects in an absolutely stacked farm system.

The Padres overpaid, IMO, but when you have as many prospects as the Padres do, you can probably do things like this without a problem if it means it increases your chances to win a title.

No way they get Bauer though, IMO.  The Padres will never be a top payroll team, and they likely can't afford to add both Snell and Bauer in the same offseason.  Instead, they'll probably try to use their prospect depth to make more deals for cost-controlled players.