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The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread


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31 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

the number of minor league deals being signed right now makes it feel like it's a week before ST.  

time to start talking about who's in the BSOTL

I think Minasian is quietly reshaping our AAA roster, with the hope of having better options to recall when the inevitable injuries strike.

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8 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I think Minasian is quietly reshaping our AAA roster, with the hope of having better options to recall when the inevitable injuries strike.

it's not just for us but everyone.  Maybe they are standing out more because nothing else is going on.   

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31 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

it's not just for us but everyone.  Maybe they are standing out more because nothing else is going on.   

Yeah.  I think basically, most of the free agents will be "waited out," so to speak.  I really doubt we see much for awhile, with the exception of a few moves.  I am guessing the free agent freeze will last until late January / early February, as ownership waits for further clarity on vaccine deployment, COVID trends, etc.

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3 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

If they get Castillo then sign Bauer then it's a maybe. We'd be missing one hell of a player for 2b, though. 

Fletcher is a very good player, but consider this:  we can likely sign a very good 2B (Wong? Hernandez) to play 2B at ~7-8mil/yr for maybe 2 years at most.

If Castillo hit the market as a free agent, he'd command 25-30mil/yr, as Bauer does.

No matter how good Fletcher may be, 2B is very cheap to fill, whereas as we have seen, SP is very difficult to fill.

You absolutely would trade a very good 2B like Fletcher in a deal for an ace SP like Castillo.

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Just now, angelsnationtalk said:

True, but they even Maddon said they need about 2 pitchers..... 

Well - if they did a trade of Castillo + Moose for Fletcher + prospects, that still probably leaves ~10mil or so for another SP.  Perhaps they sign Quintana to fill that role, or Archer, or some other mid-tier SP.

A rotation of Castillo, Bundy, Heaney, Quintana, Canning would be a strong one, IMO.

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14 hours ago, Warfarin said:

Or, alternatively, Moustakis could be involved (and play 2B) in the deal to help lower the prospect cost - acquire Castillo + Moose in exchange for Fletcher + others.

 

Would you be happy with this for an offseason?

Trade Adell and Fletcher for Castillo and Moose (2b for us, salary relief for Reds) 

Sign Bauer and lower end catcher  and some pen parts 

 

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16 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Would you be happy with this for an offseason?

Trade Adell and Fletcher for Castillo and Moose (2b for us, salary relief for Reds) 

Sign Bauer and lower end catcher  and some pen parts 

 

That seems like a heavy prospect cost to also take on Moustakas contract. 

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20 minutes ago, Fourts said:

How many 2020 Cincinnati Reds (esp Ps) are we adding to the 2021 Angels?  LOL.  Are there any other teams we can trade with and/or sign FA from besides the Reds?    

They are in a firesale mode....Minasian knew whee to look....BTW, how were they 31-29 with Bauer, Castillo and Gray?

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58 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Would you be happy with this for an offseason?

Trade Adell and Fletcher for Castillo and Moose (2b for us, salary relief for Reds) 

Sign Bauer and lower end catcher  and some pen parts 

 

Financially, the above does not seem realistic.

We would be adding about 45mil + of payroll, which is not going ot happen.

If we did the above deal for Castillo, we would not sign Bauer.

We would likely instead hunt for someone in the Quintana/Archer/Kluber/etc bucket, who will require a much, much smaller commitment, max of 10mil/yr.  Which is what they should do, as Castillo would be our undisputed ace.  It'd be fun to have both Bauer + Castillo, but it is just not financially realistic at all, unless we don't take on Moose's contract and, instead, send over way more (Adell, Fletcher, other significant prospects).

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