The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

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[Angelsfan1984]

5 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

3 top 20 guys and a nobody.

Another trade we could have easily matched.

You’re assuming they wanted what the angels have. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

4 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

So apparently Bauer has his own rap group. Old news but I just found out about it.

I don't want him anymore.

He's gonna be a big star after his appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show...

[tdawg87]

Just now, Angelsfan1984 said:

You’re assuming they wanted what the angels have. 

I'm not assuming anything. Just saying it's a trade we could have matched.

[Lou]

A starter coming off his 2nd TJ surgery. Just what we need. 

[Second Base]

Solid deal for the Pirates. Yajure and Contreras both have a future at the back end of their rotation. Escotto isn't anything, and Smith has a promising bat with an advanced already. Might turn into a halfway decent LF. 

Taillon is two TJ surgeries in, and all the risk is on the Yankees. If he's healthy, there's no guarantee his stuff will still be the same. And even if it is, there's no guarantee his stuff will play in a homer happy AL East. And even if, best case scenario, it does all play up, he's got two years in control left.

That's not a deal the Angels had any business matching, I don't think. Not when there are other FA options available that won't cost prospects.

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lou said:

A starter coming off his 2nd TJ surgery. Just what we need. 

I didn't want him, personally.

But that's a pretty underwhelming haul of prospects. 

[Angelsfan1984]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I'm not assuming anything. Just saying it's a trade we could have matched.

That’s an impossible statement to quantify. Teams value prospects differently. They may have valued the yanks top 20 guys as the angels top 3 guys. 

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I didn't want him, personally.

But that's a pretty underwhelming haul of prospects. 

As if you'd ever heard of any of those guys. 

Silly boy. 

[tdawg87]

Just now, Angelsfan1984 said:

That’s an impossible statement to quantify. Teams value prospects differently. They may have valued the yanks top 20 guys as the angels top 3 guys. 

Well sure, but if that's the case you laugh for 10 minutes on the line then hang up. 

Just saying in general, we could have matched it. Just like the Musgrove trade. 

But like I said, I never wanted Taillon.

BTW, phone? You can stop autocorrecting "Taillon" to "Tallon" you unbelievable fuck.

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lou said:

As if you'd ever heard of any of those guys. 

Silly boy. 

I knew them all personally.

[Second Base]

I figure a very rough equivalent (slightly light on Angels end, but not by much) would be Patrick Sandoval, Hector Yan, Orlando Martinez and Stiward Aquino. 

Would I have paid it? Yes, Taillon is with taking a chance on. But, the timing wouldn't match up. There are still free agents available, the Angels still have some money to spend and they could just keep their prospects in those scenarios. 

Now if they whiffed on every free agent, then yeah, I make that deal. And they're certainly trending in that direction, but aren't there yet. Minasian may get someone pretty good still.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I knew them all personally.

And now you don't?

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lou said:

And now you don't?

No.

[Docwaukee]

I didn't realize that Taillon's second surgery just recently happened.  Never mind.  Hard pass on that.  

I do like him though but that would been a huge and unnecessary risk.  

[Lou]

Just now, Dochalo said:

I didn't realize that Taillon's second surgery just recently happened.  Never mind.  Hard pass on that.  

I do like him though but that would been a huge and unnecessary risk.  

You're welcome.

[Chuck]

16 minutes ago, Lou said:

A starter coming off his 2nd TJ surgery. Just what we need. 

^

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, Lou said:

And now you don't?

 

8 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

No.

Clearly once they became Yankees they were dead to @tdawg87

[AngelsLakersFan]

18 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I knew them all personally.

Biblically speaking? 

[Angelsfan1984]

45 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Well sure, but if that's the case you laugh for 10 minutes on the line then hang up. 

Just saying in general, we could have matched it. Just like the Musgrove trade. 

But like I said, I never wanted Taillon.

BTW, phone? You can stop autocorrecting "Taillon" to "Tallon" you unbelievable fuck.

I agree with that. For all we know that happened. 

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Biblically speaking? 

[Pancake Bear]

1 hour ago, Second Base said:

I figure a very rough equivalent (slightly light on Angels end, but not by much) would be Patrick Sandoval, Hector Yan, Orlando Martinez and Stiward Aquino. 

Would I have paid it? Yes, Taillon is with taking a chance on. But, the timing wouldn't match up. There are still free agents available, the Angels still have some money to spend and they could just keep their prospects in those scenarios. 

Now if they whiffed on every free agent, then yeah, I make that deal. And they're certainly trending in that direction, but aren't there yet. Minasian may get someone pretty good still.

Wonder if that site overrates Yankees prospects. Didn't remember them having a strong farm, but the sim gives them decent value. 

There's really no headline prospect, though, regardless. 

[Second Base]

42 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

Wonder if that site overrates Yankees prospects. Didn't remember them having a strong farm, but the sim gives them decent value. 

There's really no headline prospect, though, regardless. 

Yeah that's overselling Escotto and severely underselling Yan. 17-21 is close as is, but I think I'm reality, it's probably closer to 18 going to the Yanks and 18 coming to the Angels.

[mmc]

I would’ve made the Taillon trade and honestly, I would’ve given up more than the Yankees did to get him.  I might still be much higher on his upside than most, but to me the chances of him being a frontline starter are high enough to where he was someone I really hoped we wouldn’t pass on for what it would cost.  Oh well.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

I would’ve made the Taillon trade and honestly, I would’ve given up more than the Yankees did to get him.  I might still be much higher on his upside than most, but to me the chances of him being a frontline starter are high enough to where he was someone I really hoped we wouldn’t pass on for what it would cost.  Oh well.

I wanted him as well, but I wanted him as the 2nd or 3rd starter.