Astros punishments: suspensions, firings, team gets over, everyone is pissed.

[yk9001]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

The truth isn’t fully documented in video or else he would have used that and gone after the players.

Come on.  In the history of aw.com posts not making sense, this ranks right up there.

[yk9001]

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

The competition for these awards must have been fierce....

 

 

Just too much.

[yk9001]

Jim Crane is the man who oversaw hiring Luhnow, Hinch, and that fucking weasel Taubman.

Good job.  Well deserved Executive of the Year honor.

[Stradling]

8 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Come on.  In the history of aw.com posts not making sense, this ranks right up there.

So you really believe that the video of the trash cans is so overwhelming that it would have held up if that was his evidence?  I have watched a handful of the videos and heard nothing.  I watched one or two and heard something.  Although I didn’t read a ton about it I did read that people were saying the videos were doctored, so you’d have to get the live feed from Fox Sports or whoever does the broadcasts.   It would have to be indisputable and it would then still fall on the manager and the GM because it isn’t like you are getting the players doing it to admit it without immunity.  So you go after the manager and GM because it is happening on their watch.  I think the at bat I saw where I could hear the trash can was Evan Gattis, at least that is who I think it was.  So if you don’t get admission and if you have videos of different batters, but no video of the actual dude hitting the trash can, who do you suspend?  

[yk9001]

11 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So you really believe that the video of the trash cans is so overwhelming that it would have held up if that was his evidence?  I have watched a handful of the videos and heard nothing.  I watched one or two and heard something.  Although I didn’t read a ton about it I did read that people were saying the videos were doctored, so you’d have to get the live feed from Fox Sports or whoever does the broadcasts.   It would have to be indisputable and it would then still fall on the manager and the GM because it isn’t like you are getting the players doing it to admit it without immunity.  So you go after the manager and GM because it is happening on their watch.  I think the at bat I saw where I could hear the trash can was Evan Gattis, at least that is who I think it was.  So if you don’t get admission and if you have videos of different batters, but no video of the actual dude hitting the trash can, who do you suspend?  

You're insane.  I mean you really think the videos of the trashcans  - the multitude of trashcans - are doctored?  Is that what you're telling me?

 

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

You're insane.  I mean you really think the videos of the trashcans  - the multitude of trashcans - are doctored?  Is that what you're telling me?

 

No that is not what I am saying.  

[the dude abides]

Has Verlander tweeted about the scandal yet?

[Dick B Back]

42 minutes ago, the dude abides said:

Has Verlander tweeted about the scandal yet?

Nope, he’s busy in the sack with the Mrs.

[Blarg]

I think Verlander is still too pissed about Erick Aybar bunting on him in the 8th inning of his no hitter bid, obviously breaching the ethics of sportsmanship in baseball, for him to have an opinion. 

[zenmaster]

Verlander is only outspoken when it suits him.

[GregAlso]

Here’s is what is being billed as the first player apology. It is by Keuchel. It is a pathetic apology, more of a rationalization. The writer seems to screw up one of the quotes so maybe there is more there but it can’t be that much. Glad this dude isn’t our pitcher. 
 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/astros/amp/First-Astros-player-apology-comes-from-former-15002535.php?__twitter_impression=true

[Tank]

On 1/23/2020 at 10:01 AM, Stradling said:

So you really believe that the video of the trash cans is so overwhelming that it would have held up if that was his evidence?  I have watched a handful of the videos and heard nothing.  I watched one or two and heard something.  Although I didn’t read a ton about it I did read that people were saying the videos were doctored, so you’d have to get the live feed from Fox Sports or whoever does the broadcasts.   It would have to be indisputable and it would then still fall on the manager and the GM because it isn’t like you are getting the players doing it to admit it without immunity.  So you go after the manager and GM because it is happening on their watch.  I think the at bat I saw where I could hear the trash can was Evan Gattis, at least that is who I think it was.  So if you don’t get admission and if you have videos of different batters, but no video of the actual dude hitting the trash can, who do you suspend?  

You should watch the videos from Jomboy. Not only are they damning and interesting, but rumor has it he’s hilarious.

[Inside Pitch]

6 hours ago, GregAlso said:

Here’s is what is being billed as the first player apology. It is by Keuchel. It is a pathetic apology, more of a rationalization. The writer seems to screw up one of the quotes so maybe there is more there but it can’t be that much. Glad this dude isn’t our pitcher. 
 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/astros/amp/First-Astros-player-apology-comes-from-former-15002535.php?__twitter_impression=true

What an awful read.  He seemed to spend more time condemning the whistleblower than owning up to the bs.   They might be better off not apologizing than following Keuchel's lead.

[gotbeer]

Not sure if this was posted before.  But this part really struck me as odd, and might be why the Doggie players are so quiet.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2862733-nationals-planned-for-astros-possible-sign-stealing-during-2019-world-series

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Svrluga reported the Nationals also developed more elaborate signs for their playoff matchups against the Milwaukee Brewers, Los Angeles Dodgers and St. Louis Cardinals to protect themselves.

*edit.  The next line was also interesting.  A former player of a team would know.  And one player does come to mind, who was on the Doggies.

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"It was mainly because we thought we had heard some whistling," Menhart said. "Did we really hear it? Whether you do or you don't, just to put those thoughts in our minds is dangerous. So we just said, 'Let's nip this now.'"

 

Edited January 25, 2020 by gotbeer

[GregAlso]

9 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

What an awful read.  He seemed to spend more time condemning the whistleblower than owning up to the bs.   They might be better off not apologizing than following Keuchel's lead.

It really was awful. Yeah, if this is what they believe an apology is then they are probably better off not apologizing. What’s even worse is the comments that article got from Astros fans on twitter. Things like “you don’t have to apologize”, “look he apologized and everyone just piled on him”, and even telling the writer of the story that “he should go join the Yankees because of his terrible take in the story.” I mean the responses from some of them are equally pathetic. 

[Lou]

9 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Not sure if this was posted before.  But this part really struck me as odd, and might be why the Doggie players are so quiet.

Not anymore

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1934530

[ten ocho recon scout]

12 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Not sure if this was posted before.  But this part really struck me as odd, and might be why the Doggie players are so quiet.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2862733-nationals-planned-for-astros-possible-sign-stealing-during-2019-world-series

*edit.  The next line was also interesting.  A former player of a team would know.  And one player does come to mind, who was on the Doggies.

 

I hope that bottom quote wasnt during darvish or ryu's starts

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

[W.E. Baxter Author]

I certainly don't agree with The City of Los Angeles thinking that The Dodgers should be awarded the titles. These punishments that The Astros have received are enough. Nothing has really been proven in regards to the Boston Red Sox.

[Kenny]

I honestly believe the Astros front office are better minds than we all think in regards to damage control.  Their players are already tainted to an extent.  If they start coming out and talking about how they cheated or feeling bad about it, those players’ values will drop much more.  Right now, we don’t know.  Once the season starts we will see how the bats look, they probably won’t be too bad, but in the mean time, if the Astros want to trade, they’ll have teams offering a bucket of daisy sunflower seeds for George Springer (not that Springer would be traded).

[Lou]

Whit Merrifield is not happy.

https://www.nj.com/yankees/2020/02/astros-sign-stealing-worse-than-steroids-royals-whit-merrifield-claims-in-rant.html?outputType=amp

 

"Going back to 2018, I’m going to consider myself an All-Star (that season) with all this stuff that’s come out about the Astros because Jose Altuve took my spot that game,” Merrifield told clubhouseconversation.com on Jan. 23. “So we’ll put an asterisk by 2018. And top of it, we’ll just go and throw in a Silver Slugger for good measure.”

[Stradling]

Just another example of an organization speaking out against what the Astros did while the Angels say nothing.  
I hope I did that right.  

[Lou]

This is going to get worse (better?) once ST begins.

When do pitchers and tdawgs report? 

[gotbeer]

Chris Young Reportedly Admits to Starting Red Sox Sign-Stealing With Apple Watch Trick He Learned From Yankees

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Chris Young Reportedly Admits to Starting Red Sox Sign-Stealing With Apple Watch Trick He Learned From Yankees