Astros punishments: suspensions, firings, team gets over, everyone is pissed.

[Stradling]

Yk is the American version (I’m assuming) of a Canadian.  Comes in and talks nonsense about a handful of talking points.

[yk9001]

5 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

I'm sorry he isn't what you want him to be.

I guess we'll just have to settle for having the acknowledged "best player in baseball" on our team and hope we aren't docked wins for him not being more outspoken and tiresome.

"more outspoken"?

 

 

[Inside Pitch]

I didn't think the Astros could look any worse.  I was wrong.   

Crane ... Holy shit...

[jsnpritchett]

[mulwin444]

10 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I didn't think the Astros could look any worse.  I was wrong.   

Crane ... Holy shit...

Yeah, they should have just not done anything at this point.  

[Reveille1984]

It's like another train crashing into a train wreck

[the dude abides]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/That-s-a-lie-Astros-adamantly-deny-buzzer-use-15053547.php

Altuve, on his behavior after the ALCS walkoff:

“It’s not the first time I’ve done that,” Altuve said. “If we go back and back, I’ve done that multiple times. That doesn’t mean I have a buzzer. MLB did their investigation and they didn’t find anything. They found what they found in 2017, a really good investigation obviously. They did an investigation on the buzzer and didn’t find anything. When you say you don’t believe I had a buzzer, you don’t believe what MLB investigated.”

Uh, that's precisely what the rest of the baseball world believes, Jose.

 

[Angel Oracle]

On ‎2‎/‎11‎/‎2020 at 9:42 AM, True Grich said:

Martin?  LOL

What does Chris Beltran have to say about it?

[GregAlso]

Pretty much

[the dude abides]

VERLANDER SPEAKS!!!!!!!!!!

And holy fuck, it is profound!

“I wish I had said more,” Verlander said. “I can’t go back. I can’t reverse my decision. For that I’m sorry.”

https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/astros-strongest-buzzer-denial-doesnt-come-from-jose-altuve/

 

 

[Taylor]

I'll take Multiple Disingenuous Apologies for 1,000, Alex. 

[Inside Pitch]

45 minutes ago, the dude abides said:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/That-s-a-lie-Astros-adamantly-deny-buzzer-use-15053547.php

Altuve, on his behavior after the ALCS walkoff:

“It’s not the first time I’ve done that,” Altuve said. “If we go back and back, I’ve done that multiple times. That doesn’t mean I have a buzzer. MLB did their investigation and they didn’t find anything. They found what they found in 2017, a really good investigation obviously. They did an investigation on the buzzer and didn’t find anything. When you say you don’t believe I had a buzzer, you don’t believe what MLB investigated.”

Uh, that's precisely what the rest of the baseball world believes, Jose.

 

This is why Manfred is such a twat,..   

He basically gave the Astros an out.. Manfred's "investigation" is going to be a shield the Astros will use to deflect criticism all year.   Even more revolting was Crane attempting to use MLB's decision to give the players immunity to argue that MLB didn't feel the players needed to be punished.   I mean, that may fly when talking to morons but every baseball fan with the slightest clue knew the sole reason for that was to avoid a head to head battle with the MLBPA... 

I've felt Manfred was a POS commish for a while but his handling of this mess, the gag order... etc etc..   Dude is the worst.

[Angel Oracle]

3 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

This is why Manfred is such a twat,..   

He basically gave the Astros an out.. Manfred's "investigation" is going to be a shield the Astros will use to deflect criticism all year.   Even more revolting was Crane attempting to use MLB's decision to give the players immunity to argue that MLB didn't feel the players needed to be punished.   I mean, that may fly when talking to morons but every baseball fan with the slightest clue knew the sole reason for that was to avoid a head to head battle with the MLBPA... 

I've felt Manfred was a POS commish for a while but his handling of this mess, the gag order... etc etc..   Dude is the worst.

That plus the bizarre proposals for the 2022 season

[Lou]

2 hours ago, yk9001 said:

Trout isn't capable of being a vocal superstar, so i wouldn't expect it.  It wouldn't be hard for even Trout to do more than nothing.

just like Michael Jordan

[Lou]

1 hour ago, RBM said:

Is an apology without an admission really an apology? What he's really saying is I'm sorry we got caught. What a jackass.

.

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On 2/7/2020 at 3:59 PM, Lou said:

When you refuse to answer a direct question, you're apology means nothing.

 

On 2/8/2020 at 5:40 AM, Lou said:

This is 100% self-preservation.  The only thing he's sorry for is getting caught. 

I agree

[Lou]

1 hour ago, yk9001 said:

"more outspoken"?

 

1 > 0

[the dude abides]

46 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

This is why Manfred is such a twat,..   

He basically gave the Astros an out.. Manfred's "investigation" is going to be a shield the Astros will use to deflect criticism all year.   Even more revolting was Crane attempting to use MLB's decision to give the players immunity to argue that MLB didn't feel the players needed to be punished.   I mean, that may fly when talking to morons but every baseball fan with the slightest clue knew the sole reason for that was to avoid a head to head battle with the MLBPA... 

I've felt Manfred was a POS commish for a while but his handling of this mess, the gag order... etc etc..   Dude is the worst.

I like how Altuve will not flat out say he didn't wear a buzzer.  Dances around it, and refers to the investigation.

he's guilty as fuck.

[Lou]

14 minutes ago, the dude abides said:

I like how Altuve will not flat out say he didn't wear a buzzer.  Dances around it, and refers to the investigation.

he's guilty as fuck.

Why won't a reporter just ask:

"Jose, simple yes or no question.  Have you ever worn a buzzing device in a major league game?"

[Lhalo]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

Why won't a reporter just ask:

"Jose, simple yes or no question.  Have you ever worn a buzzing device in a major league game?"

Well the Astros' opening day game is against the Angels. Maybe @Jeff Fletcher can ask him?

[Lou]

I wonder if fans will be making buzzing noise at Altuze this year.

Let's get kazoos!

 

[yk9001]

9 minutes ago, Lou said:

Why won't a reporter just ask:

"Jose, simple yes or no question.  Have you ever worn a buzzing device in a major league game?"

Well, the MLB investigation clearly stated that no buzzers were used.  So that is all I have to say.

[Lou]

Just now, yk9001 said:

Well, the MLB investigation clearly stated that no buzzers were used.  So that is all I have to say.

"I didn't ask what MLB said, I'm asking you if you ever wore one, Jose"

[yk9001]

38 minutes ago, Lou said:

just like Michael Jordan

Only on this insulated bubble of a message board do people put Mike Trout on Jordan's level.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, yk9001 said:

Only on this insulated bubble of a message board do people put Mike Trout on Jordan's level.

You are deaf if you don’t hear people asking or suggesting that Trout might be the greatest ever.  

[Lou]

1 minute ago, yk9001 said:

Only on this insulated bubble of a message board do people put Mike Trout on Jordan's level.

 

It was 100% on topic