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The Official 2019 Major League Baseball Thread


m0nkey

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I know we hear all the time that WAR is better for position players than it is pitchers.  Baseball reference and fangraphs are miles apart on Mike Minor?  Baseball reference has him having a higher WAR than Gerrit Cole.  I like using baseball reference and consistently do so because I just enjoy the website better, the ease of use, which could just be from familiarity. But I just don’t get how they could be 3 games a part when valuing a player.  

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5 hours ago, Stradling said:

I know we hear all the time that WAR is better for position players than it is pitchers.  Baseball reference and fangraphs are miles apart on Mike Minor?  Baseball reference has him having a higher WAR than Gerrit Cole.  I like using baseball reference and consistently do so because I just enjoy the website better, the ease of use, which could just be from familiarity. But I just don’t get how they could be 3 games a part when valuing a player.  

Walker Buehler is 2.2 on BR and 5.0 on fangraphs

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23 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Right, which is why I asked what your opinion is about where he might end up and not what you’ve read.  

Depends on how bad he really wants to manage. I’ll say Padres or bust! I don’t think he wants to relocate ... maybe he’ll get a gig on MLB Network or something like that.

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On 9/30/2019 at 9:01 AM, m0nkey said:

Burbank resident Jack Flaherty had a 4.90 ERA and 1.29 WHIP after his start on July 2.  


After that start, he had a .93 ERA and a .70 WHIP to finish the year and ended up leading the NL in WHIP.

He scratched TS 45 on the mound at the ballpark in Atlanta before his start yesterday, just as he has before every start since hearing of the death of his friend.

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2 hours ago, Stradling said:

I think he will come back, just not sure where.  Where do you think he ends up?  My guess would be Padres or Mets. 

Sort of interesting how this offseason seems to be shaping up more towards favoring old-school vet managers more than the young gun/no experience guys. 

I really hope Scioscia winds up in the dugout again somewhere. San Diego would be great. Philly could be interesting if Kapler gets canned. San Francisco and the Mets would be interesting too.

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17 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

The pirates had Gerrit Cole and Charlie Morton in their rotation in 2015, and Tyler Glasnow made it to AAA that year.  

 

But at least they have Joe Musgrove and Chris Archer!

This is who the Pirates got for Cole:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/felizmi01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martija03.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moranco01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/musgrjo01.shtml

Meh

Imagine getting this type of return for Trout a year or two ago...or what lotto tickets we might get for someone like Simmons.

If you can keep your talent, do it..

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1 hour ago, mulwin444 said:

This is who the Pirates got for Cole:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/felizmi01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martija03.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moranco01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/musgrjo01.shtml

Meh

Imagine getting this type of return for Trout a year or two ago...or what lotto tickets we might get for someone like Simmons.

If you can keep your talent, do it..

it's also a reminder that near major league ready talent is so much more valuable in trade than guys in the low minors.  

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That's three quality arms the Pirates couldn't do anything with.  Morton did get better after he changed his delivery with the Pirates, but didn't have the overpowering stuff he seemed to discover in Houston.  Cole went from a mid 3 ERA guy to a Cy Young contender, and while it's still way too early for Glasnow, he put up 60 dominant innings with the rays.

 

Archer has gotten worse with Pittsburgh too, though he might've been on the way down before he got there.  I wonder how Jameson Taillon turns out if he was in a different organization from the start.

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