Would you welcome or dislike Ebel as next manager?

[Pancake Bear]

1 hour ago, greginpsca said:

Former position players generally have a bad track record as managers. Pitchers and catchers usually have better track records because of their familarity with how to run pitching staffs. that's why i would hope the next manager would be Madden or Bud Black.

 

 

Alex Cora, Gabe Kapler, and Dave Roberts say "Hi".

[Second Base]

12 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Joe Maddon has a team that is a World Series contender pretty much every year. I have no idea why he would leave that situation for this one.

Nostalgia?

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Sean-Regan said:

Alex Cora, Gabe Kapler, and Dave Roberts say "Hi".

tell them the MLB World Series trophy says hello back 

[Lou]

oh, and Gabe Kapler?

[ScottT]

14 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Do any of us actually know how someone would be as a manager before they become a  manager?

Or after?

[TroutAdell]

21 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Completely independent of if you like Scioscia or not. . .IF Scioscia was not going to be the manager next year and the Angels announced they were simply promoting Dino Ebel would you be glad or disappointed?

It isn't the most glamorous headline but I don't really see any reason why someone like Dino Ebel should not make people comfortable.  Tons of experience and he knows this organization and they know him.

It is a new manager but maintains continuity at the same time.

I would be satisfied and happy for him.

 

The last thing this organization needs is continuity. They have had the same on field voice for 19 years. It is way over time to make a complete change. I would send Ebel to manage in the minors if he wanted to remain in the organization. This is Eppler’s time to make the changes he wants to make.  

[Tank]

Let Ebel interview along with several others. 

Not a single one of us here knows how he would run things because that hasn’t been his responsibility. 

I don’t mind bringing in fresh blood. 

[floplag]

I don't dislike Dino, i think he could be a fine manager, but.. i think the team needs a new direction, not more of the same. 

Dino is too ingrained in Scoscia's methods at this point and while otherwise qualified, i would prefer someone outside the organization at this point.

Exactly who, im not sure, but if were going with one of Svens lieutenants we might as well keep Sven. 

[2112]

19 hours ago, Glen said:

Joe Madden worked for Sosh.

Joe worked for Terry Collins too.  He’s always marched to a different drummer.  His style is completely different that Soshy’s. 

[2112]

I think Chavez, Paul, and Ebel should be interviewed. And maybe a few coaches that have worked in absolute cluster F*ck situations and had success turning it around. 

[Blarg]

12 hours ago, greginpsca said:

Former position players generally have a bad track record as managers. 

John McGraw 3rd base.

Joe McCarthy 2nd base

Connie Mack Catcher

Casey Stengal Center Field

Tony LaRussa Utility Infielder

Bobby Cox 3rd base

Walter Alston 1st base

Joe Torre Catcher

Sparky Anderson Shortstop

Miller Huggins 2nd base

Those are the top 10 leaders in wins as manager.

[Blarg]

By the way, Joe Maddon, like Scioscia, was a catcher. It's probably why Scioscia only kept him from the previous coaching staff. They spoke the same language.

[JarsOfClay]

20 hours ago, Stradling said:

We have no idea what his style would be. 

Well I'm guessing Scioscia hired him because he felt Ebel would fit into his point of view in running the team. I doubt he would hire a contrarian to his style.

And Ebel has managed a few games while Scioscia was away on  leave. On those rare occasions, I was excited to see what Ebel would do differently - and he did absolutely nothing different. Yes anecdotal evidence, but still those few games he showed nothing to differentiate himself from Scioscia.

 

 

[Stradling]

13 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Well I'm guessing Scioscia hired him because he felt Ebel would fit into his point of view in running the team. I doubt he would hire a contrarian to his style.

And Ebel has managed a few games while Scioscia was away on  leave. On those rare occasions, I was excited to see what Ebel would do differently - and he did absolutely nothing different. Yes anecdotal evidence, but still those few games he showed nothing to differentiate himself from Scioscia.

 

 

Haha, ok.  So when he brought in Bud Black, Ron Roenicke and retained Maddon it is because they fit into his point of view?  Sometimes people surround themselves with coaches that compliment the manager.  Look I have no idea if Ebel would be a good manager, but I find it very poor logic to assume he would be just like Scioscia.  I guess if Maddon wanted to come home we should say no, because he was a Scioscia disciple.  

[nate]

Dislike.

Nobody from the Scioscia coaching tree please.

[Lou]

1 hour ago, nate said:

Dislike.

Nobody from the Scioscia coaching tree please.

Joe Maddon agrees

[nate]

36 minutes ago, Lou said:

Joe Maddon agrees

I wouldn't want him either

[Lou]

13 minutes ago, nate said:

I wouldn't want him either

I agree 

[Pancake Bear]

16 hours ago, Lou said:

tell them the MLB World Series trophy says hello back 

I'll get back to you in November after Boston wins the WS. 

[disarcina]

don't think Ebel gets the gig.

IMO it's Brad Ausmus and unless there's a real uprising in Halo land (when does that EVER Happen? - the fan base seems asleep AT the games, IN the ballpark).

If not Ausmus -- then Eric Chavez.

I say it's Brad Ausums, with Eric Chavez either bench coach or third base coach.

Ausmus for two maybe three years -- then Chavez gets the gig..........

I think.

Does anyone think there's ANY chance that Scioscia's back in 2019?? 

This four game set vs. Houston at HOME has a finality feel about it - I like Sosh and he did much good here -- but this four game set -- many fans may be in the:

GOOD RIDDANCE mode.

[Jeff Fletcher]

On 9/22/2018 at 12:38 PM, m0nkey said:

Do any of us actually know how someone would be as a manager before they become a  manager?

^^^

[Troll Daddy]

Erstad made a mysterious appearance at the Big A the other day

[disarcina]

Jeff Fletcher rightfully points out:

do any of us know how someone would be as a manager before they became a manager?? 

NO -- but there's those you know who would probably be pretty good -- Craig Biggio, Chase Utley, Yadier Molina........

I would add Brad Ausmus to that list - but apparently many folks here think his time in Detroit was awful.

 

 

[Jeff Fletcher]

10 hours ago, disarcina said:

Jeff Fletcher rightfully points out:

do any of us know how someone would be as a manager before they became a manager?? 

NO -- but there's those you know who would probably be pretty good -- Craig Biggio, Chase Utley, Yadier Molina........

I would add Brad Ausmus to that list - but apparently many folks here think his time in Detroit was awful.

 

 

How do you know?

ill tell you what will make the next Angels manager successful: The players performing. 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

How do you know?

ill tell you what will make the next Angels manager successful: The players performing. 

Jeff if you give the best manager in baseball and the worst manager in baseball the same level of talent, how many more wins does the best manager get out of his team?  5? 6? 10?