Yordano Ventura and Andy Marte Dead

[Troll Daddy]

Tragic RIP

 

[Blarg]

Tragic. 

[Angel Oracle]

This news always totally sucks.

R.I.P. Ventura and Marte

[zenmaster]

I read this was separate crashes. So sad. 

[Broad Street]

RIP. He may have been a hothead on the mound at times, but he had a lot of talent.

[Tank]

ventura was the guy who was a total temperamental clown, right?

sad to hear this news.

[Tyler]

Terrible. Another one gone too soon. Ventura and Fernandez... RIP.

[Brandon]

damn, only 25 for ventura.

[nando714]

RIP. Another one gone way to young. 

[AngelsLongBall]

4 minutes ago, Tank said:

ventura was the guy who was a total temperamental clown, right?

sad to hear this news.

He was. Jawed at Trout. Total clown

[JustATroutFan]

I lost a lot of respect for the dude when he tried to fight with Trout. That being said, he was still a good guy who just had a hard time controlling his emotions and had the talent to be a great pitcher. Either way, RIP.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I don't slight him for his lack of emotional control, a lot of young immature people are that way. This is horrible news to hear. R.I.P to both. 

[Broad Street]

Rumor is it that he had been drinking. When will people learn that alcohol and driving don't mix?

[Tank]

3 minutes ago, Kody Mac said:

Rumor is it that he had been drinking. When will people learn that alcohol and driving don't mix?

according to a college professor of mine who got frustrated at people not getting the point, "on the second tuesday after eternity."

[Adam]

Bummer man. Sucks

[ukyah]

rip to them both, but for the sake of clarification it wasn't a former indians pitcher who was killed. it was andy marte the former 3b prospect and it was two separate car accidents as zenmaster said. 

[gurn67]

Please change the topic heading. Not cool at all to not put Marte's first name after what we went through with Adenhart.

[Chuck]

Andy Marte played in AAA for us a few years back with the Bees and had a great season.

R.I.P. to both guys.

[Docwaukee]

Horrible news.   

Taveras was his good friend.  

There has got to be some sort of learning curve on this at some point.  

[ettin]

1 hour ago, Kody Mac said:

Rumor is it that he had been drinking. When will people learn that alcohol and driving don't mix?

A lot do not learn it until after they survive it. Back in the early 90's there was a 2-year period where stupidly I drove intoxicated (although there were times I had others drive). I'm lucky nothing happened and only until a bit later did I realize how much I put myself and others at risk of injury or death. I think a lot of people in their teenage and early 20's have done this in their lifetimes. Only in the last 20 years has their been greater awareness and encouragement to not drive period if you have been drinking or worse.

Feel very sad for Yordano and Marte, may they both Rest In Peace.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Surprised at the sympathy for a drunk driver (habit of it supposedly as well) on this board of all places, considering many condemn the hell out of Andrew Gallo.

Luckily sounds like he didn't hurt anyone else.

[WeatherWonk]

I'll wager that the Dom. Republic is like the country I live in;  Mexico. There is absolutely no driver's training, nor is there a written test to pass to get a driver's license. All you have to do is prove you can read and reach a certain age. Then, there is the near total lack of enforcement of conventional regulations by the police.

Mix all that with alcohol consumption and that's a pretty lethal cocktail.

Man, there have been a lot of Caribbean players killed in accidents in the last couple years.............

[fan_since79]

Ventura pitching his final game on September 30, 2016 with inscriptions on his cap in tribute to Jose Fernandez and Oscar Taveras.

(Getty images, so just the link.)

http://www.gettyimages.com/license/611678554

[Diaz15]

Simply awful. RIP

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Surprised at the sympathy for a drunk driver (habit of it supposedly as well) on this board of all places, considering many condemn the hell out of Andrew Gallo.

Luckily sounds like he didn't hurt anyone else.

it's because life experience teaches you many lessons. among them we learn that young people make serious mistakes, and sometimes it costs them their lives, and rather than waste the moment on judgement, we realize that nearly all of us have made those same mistakes and were only spared by luck and circumstance. 

the point is to let what cannot be unchanged left alone and instead focus on the present, which is a life cut short. use them as a lesson for other youths to possibly learn from and hopefully prevent a few from the same fate, then use the next life lost as another lesson for another group of young lives.

gallo is judged in life, not in death. he survived his mistake, but cost the lives of others. that is the difference.