Skaggs

[Ohtaniland]

Sum Ting Wong

 

This is not the same Skaggs we saw the first two games. 

[totdprods]

He'll be alright. Just rust from TJ. Velocity and movement still look to be there, his command is just off. 

[Oz27]

He looks to be down a couple of MPH. Given the history, that's pretty worrying. His average FB velocity in his previous start was 94. I don't know the average for today yet but what I saw had him sitting around 91.

[AngelsLakersFan]

He looked low to mid 90's today. I'm not concerned about his veto, if anything the 97 in spring training should've been the red flag. 

Most of his trouble seems to come from a lack of command, and maybe the lack of a quality third pitch (though I say that about everyone).

[GrittyVeterans]

I'm not going to judge him until he gets a full Spring training and full season in

 

So next year hopefully

[Angelsjunky]

2019.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

2019.

So pretty much useless

[Angelsjunky]

The pessimist in me thinks Skaggs will never amount to much, with chronic injury issues. But he also seems to have good upside, more than even Heaney, maybe (Heaney's ceiling is a lot more limited than some imagine, I think).

But if you look at his career so far, including the minors, he just has never really been able to gather the momentum necessary to develop fully.

[Troll Daddy]

He'll be fine if you keep your expectations in check. 

[mulwin444]

Games are meaningless right now.  Perfect time for him to work this shit out.

[Ohtaniland]

32 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

The pessimist in me thinks Skaggs will never amount to much, with chronic injury issues. But he also seems to have good upside, more than even Heaney, maybe (Heaney's ceiling is a lot more limited than some imagine, I think).

But if you look at his career so far, including the minors, he just has never really been able to gather the momentum necessary to develop fully.

Those 5+ era's won't keep him in the rotation very long.  

[kevinb]

I enjoy a starting pitcher who can't make it past the 4th inning. 

[Ohtaniland]

Pretty sure we can ship him to Seattle. Dipoto loves this guy.

[Chuck]

I hate you all.

[Glen]

It'd be nice to have an Angels player return from injury and exceed expectations, instead of failing to meet them. Fuck, man. There's always an excuse. I'm tired of excuses or reasons why someone is underperforming.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Meanwhile butcher is sleeping like a baby

[Docwaukee]

4 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

He looked low to mid 90's today. I'm not concerned about his veto, if anything the 97 in spring training should've been the red flag. 

Most of his trouble seems to come from a lack of command, and maybe the lack of a quality third pitch (though I say that about everyone).

he's got a good changeup.  not sure why he rarely uses it.  

[kevinb]

37 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

he's got a good changeup.  not sure why he rarely uses it.  

Not comfortable throwing it yet maybe?

[kevinb]

I really wish they used these next 4 or 5 weeks as an extended spring training. Just have guys go out there working on stuff. 

[Ohtaniland]

6 hours ago, Kevinb said:

I really wish they used these next 4 or 5 weeks as an extended spring training. Just have guys go out there working on stuff. 

I still think he should've stayed in AAA until next spring. He's got talent but this is what happens when a team is desperate and runs out of options. 

I just hope he's not having a setback. 

[arch stanton]

Staying in AAA is not better for him. It's time for him to figure out ML hitters

[Stradling]

The stuff is still there so it's either mechanical (cue the "if only we had a coach the specialized in helping pitchers improve") or he's going through a dead arm phase that some get in spring or early in the season. 

[eaterfan]

It's too early to make a decision on what Skaggs is. Just as it was two early to pencil him in as a number 2 starter just three weeks ago. The dude has a high ceiling but is inconsistent. He has pitched this season just as he has in every season before. Before we start basing our offseason plans on having a strong #1 (Richards), #2 (Skaggs), and #5 (Nolasco) it might be time to start basing our offseason plans on having a #2 (Richards), #4 (Skaggs), and #5 (Nolasco). Not only are those the only rotation pieces we really have, but our top too starters are a little injury prone. 

[Stradling]

Shoe

[zenmaster]

This is why I keep my expectations low on guys coming back from TJ. The posts here talking about our awesome rotation in 2018 with GRich, Trop, and Heany are very premature. None of these guys may be who they once were. And let's be honest, none of the 3 have any extended success.