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[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

I have no idea what you’re referring to so I can’t comment on that. I do know we suck at fighting COVID ourselves 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/10/middleeast/tehran-hospital-coronavirus-sanctions-iran-intl/index.html


https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2020/10/08/the-undeniable-cruelty-of-trumps-maximum-pressure-on-iran/

 

[Jason]

Just now, gotbeer said:

Nancy Pelosi's home vandalized with graffiti, fake blood on New Year's Day

Notice they don't mention of the antifa symbols.

What is the Antifa symbol. What does “everything” mean? That’s a bit vague 

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, Jason said:

Yeah, I’ll take our side over theirs every time. Even when we are shit 

Ostensibly the “side” you’re deciding to take is the Saudis and Israelis.  Just more fucking kneeling to oil interests and the military industrial complex.  More recently fucking lunatic death worshipping radical Christians.  Which is the full extent of American interests in those countries.  Consider opposing imperialism.  In all of its evil forms. 

Edited January 2, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/10/middleeast/tehran-hospital-coronavirus-sanctions-iran-intl/index.html


https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2020/10/08/the-undeniable-cruelty-of-trumps-maximum-pressure-on-iran/

 

I would imagine most countries with sanctions levied against them are struggling in this area. I’m not sure we just lift them “temporarily”. I think it would create a mess to revisit them at a later date. 

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

What is the Antifa symbol. What does “everything” mean? That’s a bit vague 

It’s an anarchy symbol.  And good.  I’m glad they fucked up the bitches mansion. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s an anarchy symbol.  And good.  I’m glad they fucked up the bitches mansion. 

I didn’t know the anarchy symbol was Antifa. I thought they had something with flags on it. I don’t agree with the graffiti but the YouTube that live streamed himself dropping a deuce on her driveway was cool

Edited January 2, 2021 by Jason

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

I would imagine most countries with sanctions levied against them are struggling in this area. I’m not sure we just lift them “temporarily”. I think it would create a mess to revisit them at a later date. 

Make peace and forget the sanctions !

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Jason said:

I didn’t know the anarchy symbol was Antifa. I thought they had something with flags on it 

They’re similar.  The black flag stuff is associated with anarchists. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Make peace and forget the sanctions !

I’m not convinced Iran wants that so it may be completely pointless 

[UndertheHalo]

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

I’m not convinced Iran wants that so it may be completely pointless 

This doesn’t make sense man.  What do you imagine is Iran’s objective ? Primarily their objective is survival.  They are aggressive with the regional powers that want to destroy them.  We don’t have to be involved in that.  But we are.  Because A.  Our relationship with the Saudis.  Which in the past was about our want of their oil.  But B and more pertinent now, is more about all the money they spend on purchasing military equipment from us.  Which is a tricky thing.  You see, selling them all of those weapons systems also means we’re trapped guaranteeing the survival of the Saudi monarchy.  Wouldn’t want all that shit falling into the wrong hands now would we ? The Saudi rulers are clever in that way. 
 

the Israelis are a more complex issue.  There’s tremendous social pressure (complicated).  But also, they represent basically a colonial bulkhead that helps exert western control in the region.  Also, they buy lots of our shit.  Haha often with our own money.  Some fucking scheme they’ve got cooked up eh ? 
 

it’s all bullshit.  Like I said, consider opposing it.  

Edited January 2, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[mtangelsfan]

4 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Aid ? What aid.  Giving them back the money we stole from them ? What are your thoughts on our active efforts to deny them any ability to fight covid ?

More American exceptionalism I guess. 

I think we all know this isn’t black and white and there aren’t any good actors in this.  Well, except maybe ordinary folks

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I think we all know this isn’t black and white and there aren’t any good actors in this.  Well, except maybe ordinary folks

Exactly right it’s not black and white.  it’s not about “good” and “bad” these are baby brained concepts to try and find in geopolitical battles.  It just doesn’t exist.  What is good is peace.  Pursue it. 

Edited January 2, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[mtangelsfan]

55 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ostensibly the “side” you’re deciding to take is the Saudis and Israelis.  Just more fucking kneeling to oil interests and the military industrial complex.  More recently fucking lunatic death worshipping radical Christians.  Which is the full extent of American interests in those countries.  Consider opposing imperialism.  In all of its evil forms. 

Death worshipping radical Christians?

[UndertheHalo]

14 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Death worshipping radical Christians?

The setting up the end times idiots. 

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

The setting up the end times idiots. 

Such a huge majority, I'm sure they will change the course of history. 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

Nancy Pelosi's home vandalized with graffiti, fake blood on New Year's Day

Notice they don't mention of the antifa symbols.

This garage is just for the landscaper's equipment. It's on the side.

[mtangelsfan]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

The setting up the end times idiots. 

I highly doubt they have any impact on DC.  Decisions are made for power and money 

[Blarg]

As the US and other developed countries move further from fossil fuel dependency, the economic and political power that the middle east currently holds will dissolve and they will return to poverty ridden countries without the GNP to afford any of their current weapons of war. They will become irrelevant other than their antiquity legacy. 

 

[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I highly doubt they have any impact on DC.  Decisions are made for power and money 

There are lots of them.  Much domestic support for Israel is directly related to religious issues. 

Edited January 2, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[Jay]

6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

As the US and other developed countries move further from fossil fuel dependency, the economic and political power that the middle east currently holds will dissolve and they will return to poverty ridden countries without the GNP to afford any of their current weapons of war. They will become irrelevant other than their antiquity legacy. 

 

Wishful thinking...

 

[mtangelsfan]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

There are lots of them.  Much domestic support for Israel is directly related to religious issues. 

It drums up votes but it isn’t the reason, you know that.

[mtangelsfan]

12 minutes ago, Blarg said:

As the US and other developed countries move further from fossil fuel dependency, the economic and political power that the middle east currently holds will dissolve and they will return to poverty ridden countries without the GNP to afford any of their current weapons of war. They will become irrelevant other than their antiquity legacy. 

 

China and India alone will keep oil relevant for decades more

[Blarg]

Probably but there is and end game. 

[Blarg]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55408846

 

The UN has condemned the execution by Iran of a man for a crime he allegedly committed when he was 16 years old.

Its human rights office said that Mohammad Hassan Rezaiee, aged 30, was put to death on Thursday.

Amnesty International said Rezaiee had been arrested in 2007 over the fatal stabbing of a man. It said he was convicted on a forced confession.

 

[Blarg]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55285301

Iran has executed a journalist who was accused of using a messaging app to stir up dissent.

Ruhollah Zam was hanged on Saturday after the supreme court upheld a death sentence against him, state television reported.

Zam, who had been living in exile in France, was reportedly detained after travelling to Iraq last year.