NHL Expansion to Vegas - Official

[halobob]

Screw expansion, move the Coyotes to Vegas and be done with it.  30 teams is fine.  

[TeemuTrout]

The only new Canadian expansion team that could be in the western conference is if one were located in the city of Regina in the state Saskatchewan.

Toronto doesn't need another team, they should consider Halifax, Nova Scotia or St. Johns, Newfoundland.

 

Giving Toronto another team would be like giving LA another NBA team.

 

Go learn more about the business side of owning a sports franchise and then come back. Besides the fact that those cities don't have enough people, they also don't have enough coporate support to properly support an NHL team. Also, are there any perspective owners in those cities? Who's going to pay for a 20,000 seat arena?

Edited July 22, 2015 by TeemuTrout

[TeemuTrout]

What about Halifax, Nova Scotia ?  Halifax according to Wikipedia has more people than the city of Anaheim.

 

The city of Anaheim is in a county, and metropolitan area, with millions and millions of people.

Edited July 22, 2015 by TeemuTrout

[Pujols4MVP]

Go learn more about the business side of owning a sports franchise and then come back. Besides the fact that those cities don't have enough people, they also don't have enough coporate support to properly support an NHL team. Also, are there any perspective owners in those cities? Who's going to pay for a 20,000 seat arena?

 

Winnipeg has a team & has literallty the same amount of people as Halifax. Winnipeg also has less people in their province than Nova Scotia. Same market size.

Also their population is less spread out due to being smaller in terms of land & thus people across Nova Scotia could easily get to Halifax. There is also something called ownership groups.

 

It would be a interesting investment for Nova Scotia if they had a ownership group that got together to do it.

If they had the arena already & the owner they would fill seats better than the Arizona Coyotes & higher tv ratings.

 

I wouldn't underestimate Canadian markets the size of Winnipeg's. What Winnipeg has lacked in market size & population they make up with Canadian Hockey Fans who fill seats, buy jerseys & support their teams even during a rebuilding process.

One day when they have a ownership group that can build a team there, it probally will succeed like Winnipeg has.

Edited July 23, 2015 by MikeScioscia4MVP

[gotbeer]

I think the biggest issue with Canada isn't the fan base.  But it's the currency.  Right now, they are reaping a favorable exchange rate.  But the times when they struggled, is when the exchange rate was unfavorable.  

 

This will be a cyclical thing for Hockey and really any sport that crosses the border.  

 

And this is one of the reason why I think Mexico would be horrible for any sport to go over there on a full time basis.  England on the other hand would be more stable in terms of currency for say the NFL.  

[HaloCory22]

MikeScioscia4MVP has been watching Goon with the Halifax and Nova Scotia name drops.

[Pujols4MVP]

MikeScioscia4MVP has been watching Goon with the Halifax and Nova Scotia name drops.

 

Nope haven't seen that movie.  I have friends in Nova Scotia.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Wait, what? I have a friend that lives in St John New Brunswick and it is Atlantic.

Don't confuse Saint John and St. John's. Saint John is in New Brunswick on the mainland, and St. John's is in Newfoundland on the eastern end of the island. Only the island is on Newfoundland time, which is 30 minutes later than Atlantic.

Ironically, the hockey game that I took my grandfather to the last time I visited Newfoundland was Saint John vs. St. John's - the Saint John Flames vs. the St. John's Maple Leafs. Fittingly, it ended in a tie.

Edited July 24, 2015 by Vegas Halo Fan

[TeemuTrout]

I think the biggest issue with Canada isn't the fan base.  But it's the currency.  Right now, they are reaping a favorable exchange rate.  But the times when they struggled, is when the exchange rate was unfavorable.  

 

This will be a cyclical thing for Hockey and really any sport that crosses the border.  

 

And this is one of the reason why I think Mexico would be horrible for any sport to go over there on a full time basis.  England on the other hand would be more stable in terms of currency for say the NFL.  

 

I wouldn't say that. It's down to .77 cents, which is the lowest in 11 years.

[TeemuTrout]

Winnipeg has a team & has literallty the same amount of people as Halifax. Winnipeg also has less people in their province than Nova Scotia. Same market size.

 

Winnipeg has nearly twice the metro population of Halifax.

[gotbeer]

I wouldn't say that. It's down to .77 cents, which is the lowest in 11 years.

 

Interesting.  I've kept hearing it's favorable towards that side.  Guess not.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

The year that my grandfather passed away, it was 66 cents on the dollar. The exchange rate killed us when we cashed out the estate.

[Tank]

When I was a teenager, I wanted to move to Halifax, Nova Scotia because I thought it was the coolest sounding name possible for a place to live.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I haven't spent much time in Halifax apart from making connections at the airport going to or from St. John's. By all accounts it is a fascinating city, strong maritime history. Many of the victims of the Titanic sinking are buried there.

[gotbeer]

Poker star Daniel Negreanu plans to buy slice of Vegas franchise

 

This would be an interesting quandry for the NHL.  While Negreanu would be a pretty big name for the ownership group.  Having a professional gambler as partial owner of a sports franchise goes into a lot of grey areas.  

[Vegas Halo Fan]

This would be an interesting quandry for the NHL.  While Negreanu would be a pretty big name for the ownership group.  Having a professional gambler as partial owner of a sports franchise goes into a lot of grey areas.  

 

 

If they are going to allow it, it will happen here.

[Thomas]

Poker star Daniel Negreanu plans to buy slice of Vegas franchise

 

This would be an interesting quandry for the NHL.  While Negreanu would be a pretty big name for the ownership group.  Having a professional gambler as partial owner of a sports franchise goes into a lot of grey areas.  

 

 

Him being a minority owner can't be a bigger deal than Dr. Jerry Buss and his poker habits.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

The latest construction photos on the home of the Las Vegas Scorpions/Black Knights/Aces/whatever the name of the moment is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gotbeer]

Las Vegas, Quebec City advance in NHL expansion process

I think Vegas is a done deal.  

 

With Quebec, there are still lot's of NHL questions.  East already has 2 more teams than the west.  Vegas will make the difference 1, which isn't as big of a deal in hockey since they play every other dayish.  Quebec though will make the division difference 2 again.  Unless of course the league realigns itself once again.  

 

My bet would be Vegas gets the expansion.  With Quebec waiting another 2+ years till hopefully Seattle gets it's act together.  Or, a team packs up and moves to Seattle and in 2 years you have the two new with the one moved.  

[mrwicked]

With all this expansion talk, the end of the Original 30 era is quickly approaching.

[gotbeer]

Cloud of uncertainty over Hurricanes as Quebec beckons

 

Interesting.  This would make logical sense since Florida is being Florida.  

[Pujols4MVP]

Cloud of uncertainty over Hurricanes as Quebec beckons

 

Interesting.  This would make logical sense since Florida is being Florida.  

 

 

Hurricanes are the one team that doesn't know what they are doing or which direction they are headed.

They can't even get the #1/#2 pick every year like Edmonton & Buffalo.

 

Their not consistant at finishing with the 1st or 2nd worst record.

Every draft year its the guy after Hall/Seguin types for them, like always the #3 to #5 pick instead.

[TeemuTrout]

Cloud of uncertainty over Hurricanes as Quebec beckons

 

Interesting.  This would make logical sense since Florida is being Florida.  

 

 

The Hurricanes play in Raleigh, North Carolina.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Aside from Tampa, Dallas and perhaps Nashville, hockey has not worked particularly well in the south. The Panthers and the Hurricanes are at the bottom of the league in attendance, and Atlanta has already lost two teams to Canadian cities.

 

The truly amazing NHL city is Toronto. The Leafs haven't been relevant in decades, and they still draw over 19K per game on average.

[gotbeer]

The Hurricanes play in Raleigh, North Carolina.

 

No what I mean is the Panthers owner just bought the team and says he will not move them.  Even though the Panthers are the logical team to move.