Time to trade Vargas?

[HBMike]

They can still sign him in the offseason, but I hope they can pull something off and get a decent prospect for him. What do you think, trade him or hold on to him?

Edited August 30, 2013 by HBMike

[greginpsca]

He was quoted in an article i read that if he was traded, the odds of him resigning here might not be good. So i would keep him.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Sure. I'd love it if they were able to trade him. 

[Glen]

No.  We should be trying to extend him, not trade him.  Offer 2/$20 million and see if he bites.

[SoWhat]

The more he pitches like he did today, the higher his price tag will be. He's been consistently solid all season. I think someone will offer 5yr/$65M

We should extend him a qualifying offer. The first round pick we receive will be far more valuable than a prospect we get back in a trade.

Edited August 30, 2013 by SoWhat

[Erstad Grit]

He was quoted in an article i read that if he was traded, the odds of him resigning here might not be good. So i would keep him.

 

If this is true what a dummy. If you want to be an Angel then awesome. Go chase a ring on a playoff run and net the Angels a prospect to make them better and resign with us. 

[tomsred]

The more he pitches like he did today, the higher his price tag will be. He's been consistently solid all season. I think someone will offer 5yr/$65M

We should extend him a qualifying offer. The first round pick we receive will be far more valuable than a prospect we get back in a trade.

Agree.

[FireThemAll]

He's going to get more than 2/20. Think 4/45 or something in that ballpark. Lefties that can eat innings get paid stupid money on the FA market. I'd trade him if you can.

Edited August 30, 2013 by FireThemAll

[Docwaukee]

We got trout around where a comp pick is. Unless we get a near major league ready arm with upside, it's not worth it.

[Ohtaniland]

He's a SoCal guy and a former college teammate of Jered Weaver. He likes it here, his family's here so I think he's going to re-up with us.

[arch stanton]

I think he's earned a qualifying offer this off season and I think he would sign.

[Ohtaniland]

I think he's earned a qualifying offer this off season and I think he would sign.

 

Good call Tuco.

[Troll Daddy]

So if you give Vargas a qualifying offer and then sign him as a free agent ...

what happens with the draft pick?

[Troll Daddy]

The more he pitches like he did today, the higher his price tag will be. He's been consistently solid all season. I think someone will offer 5yr/$65M

We should extend him a qualifying offer. The first round pick we receive will be far more valuable than a prospect we get back in a trade.

You don't get a first round draft pick ... you get a compensatory pick at the end of the first round.

[Dreams]

If we trade him, we would receive a compensatory pick regardless.  Remember Greinke last year.  Brewers still received a compensatory pick (along with Segura).  Angels got nuttin'.

[jshep]

If we trade him, we would receive a compensatory pick regardless.  Remember Greinke last year.  Brewers still received a compensatory pick (along with Segura).  Angels got nuttin'.

 

Brewers didn't get a draft pick for Greinke either.

Edited August 30, 2013 by jshep

[Tank]

at a time when we are so thin in starting pitching, i can't see the wisdom in trading away a guy who's doing well for us, and then hoping he liked it here enough to come back.

 

keep him, and make a strong offer to re-sign him this winter.

[bloodbrother]

Keep him for the rest of the season, offer him a qualifying offer in the offseason and then hope some other team signs him so the Halos get a draft pick

[arch stanton]

Keep him for the rest of the season, offer him a qualifying offer in the offseason and then hope some other team signs him so the Halos get a draft pick

Then we can all hope that draft pick turns into a Jason Vargas level major league quality starter at some point?

[DMVol]

Then we can all hope that draft pick turns into a Jason Vargas level major league quality starter at some point?

+1....and even if that draft pick "might" turn into Jason Vargas, it would likely be 5 years down the road....

[HaloNArizona]

Keep Vargas....

Weaver

CJ

Vargas

Richards

 

Go out and look for a solid #2/#1 type of pitcher....We need pitching.

[Senor Piva]

They can still sign him in the offseason, but I hope they can pull something off and get a decent prospect for him. What do you think, trade him or hold on to him?

 

So you are going to trade a guy who is owed roughly $1.4 million for the last month, an impending free agent, for who? Who is going to give up a "decent prospect" for an impending free agent who just came back from a blood clot issue?  Bigger question is, do the Angels offer him a qualifying offer (roughly $13.5-14 million) for next year.  I say yes.  If he accepts, you have Weaver, Wilson, Vargas, Richards and Sappington (Cardinals start youngsters, no reason why the Angels can't fold them into the starting lineup).  If he declines the offer and signs elsewhere, you go with Weaver, Garza, Wilson, Richards, Sappington.  Luxury tax be damned.  Club has to fix the starting pitching.  Thoughts?

[SoWhat]

If he accepts, you have Weaver, Wilson, Vargas, Richards and Sappington (Cardinals start youngsters, no reason why the Angels can't fold them into the starting lineup). If he declines the offer and signs elsewhere, you go with Weaver, Garza, Wilson, Richards, Sappington. Luxury tax be damned. Club has to fix the starting pitching. Thoughts?

Sorry, but that's pretty dumb. You can't just throw young guys in a rotation and bank on them to be successful just because another club has done it. Guys like Miller, Wacha and Martinez are on a whole 'nother level than Richards and Sappington.

Edited August 30, 2013 by SoWhat

[Angel Oracle]

Re-sign him, decent/solid lefties don't grow on trees. He's been real solid at home the past several years, and is getting better on the road.

I'd go 4 years/$50 million, if needed.

He's only 34 in 2017.

Edited August 30, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Mark68]

Keep him, give him a qualifying offer and try to get a new deal. If he re-signs, great. If he accepts the qualifying offer, great. If he declines it, fine, We get an extra pick.

 

Trading him at this point wouldn't make sense. We'd get back a prospect that may or may not work out, but we don't get the fallback of the qualifying offer and extra draft pick.