Angel players and PED

[fureousangel]

I'm curious, do any of you think any Angels players are guilty of using PEDs?

[CanadianHalo]

Blanton. No way can anyone be in that good of shape without being on something

[jshep]

I don't have any particular reason to suspect any of them are, no.

 

Of course there's always that possibility with any player, though.

[Brandon]

Brad Fullmer never took steroids.

[fan_since79]

If any of them are, they should ask for their money back, because the drugs sure aren't working.

[Torridd]

On this currrent team, no.

[Ohtaniland]

I'm curious, do any of you think any Angels players are guilty of using PEDs?

Pretty much the entire 2002 team but so was every other team.

[shellback]

the drop off in performance from some of these guys from thier career norms could indicate a hx of roids

[Homebrewer]

LOL...if they are, they are getting seriously ripped off.

They play more like a bunch of stoners...

[fureousangel]

Oh I know that 02 team was druggie central. But I'm talking players on this team.

Personally I think Hamilton did previously but stopped because was going to get busted.

However I do wish Blanton tried some PEDs.

[Ohtaniland]

Pujols has definitely juiced at some point during his career.

His broken down 33 year old body sure points to some early abuse.

[Homebrewer]

the drop off in performance from some of these guys from thier career norms could indicate a hx of roids

Hard to imagine Hamilton was ever involved in anything illegal that made him feel good (cough cough)

But I am beginning to feel certain that Pujols stopped doing something when he came here. No other explanation   for the collapse we are witnessing. From healthy stud to staggering shlub almost overnight?

[Chuck]

Pretty much the entire 2002 team but so was every other team.

 

 

I call bullshit.

[Bruce Nye]

I don't believe Eckstein and Erstad were juicers.  AK, maybe.  Glaus, yes.  Salmon and GA, no.  Molina's, no.  Troy and Frankie, no.

[Homebrewer]

I call bullshit.

LOL...GA could barely stay awake most days.

[katrinab]

Pujols has definitely juiced at some point during his career.

his name has never been mentioned so I don't think its "definitely"

[Ohtaniland]

I think that many of the prior users were scared straight by the league. Albert got his huge guaranteed contract and no longer needs to hit .325/40/125 to get paid. He just wants to stay clean at this point and pad his stats.

[SoWhat]

Pujols has definitely juiced at some point during his career.

Dumb

[Stradling]

I think that many of the prior users were scared straight by the league. Albert got his huge guaranteed contract and no longer needs to hit .325/40/125 to get paid. He just wants to stay clean at this point and pad his stats.

Yea, how was he going to survive on the first $100 million.

[nando714]

Pretty much the entire 2002 team but so was every other team.

Oh no not the precious 2002 team!!

[Angelsjunky]

Albert's decline could just be age related. OPS+ by age:

 

29: 189

30: 173

31: 148

32: 138

33: 111

 

Yes, that trajectory is real and quite disturbing. Even if Albert gets hot he's no equaling last year so we'll have a 4th year in a row of decline. Ouch.

 

I think the concern is how steep the decline was. Dipoto and Moreno likely though 2011 (age 31) was a dip and that he'd be back in the 160+ range for a few years. But he just kept falling.

[Reveille1984]

His POS+ level is steadily rising however

[stevestevens]

I don't believe Eckstein and Erstad were juicers. AK, maybe. Glaus, yes. Salmon and GA, no. Molina's, no. Troy and Frankie, no.

The only guy that I really 100% believe was entirely clean was salmon, his numbers stayed fairly constant his entire career and when a lot of guys his age suddenly started to crank out 40 bomb season, salmon started to decrease. I would probably throw Percy in their too in that as his fastball lost some edge over time, he developed off speed pitches instead of some new grip that magically put 5 mph back on his fastball.

Erstad's 2000 season has to be highly suspicious. GA had some weird back problems, AK and eck were hammy guys. I am not saying those guys are guilty but there is a chance...... You can't say no or yes.

Glaus and donkey are obvious.

Of the who cares because they were not life long angels group from that team, Appier and sele were most likely clean.

[Ohtaniland]

Yea, how was he going to survive on the first $100 million.

That's where greed separates itself from being reasonable. This guy should still be wearing a Cardinals jersey if it wasn't about the money. He's been a huge disappointment to all of our fanbase and he will continue to be as the YEARS pass by.

[sneaky_flute]

a player's numbers aren't going to suggest steroid use. barry bonds was the best hitter in history and aside from the 73 home runs, his numbers didn't change that much when he became a hulking monster in san francisco.