Blowpen tally

[Vlad27Trout27]

15 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Gio is fine where's he at. Lamb...Once Rendon is back, Put him at 3rd, Drury at 1st, and Rengifo at 2nd. You just got to hope we see more of first half Drury from last year. 

[Slegnaac]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Drury and Renfroe not hitting at all. Walsh not being healthy enough to start the season.  Say what you will about Stassi he’s a helluva lot better than Thaiss. 

Stassi has been a catcher his whole career,  Thaiss has not.

rOBA

Stassi - .293

Thaiss - .287

Rbat+

Stassi - 79

Thaiss  - 73

HardH%

Stassi - 42.4%

Thaiss  - 41.8%

Offensively I don't see much difference. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

I heard there's a reliever available.

He had a 2.48 ERA in 69 innings in the majors last year, and he held righties to a .175 average. Apparently he's thrown some bad pitches over the last nine batters he's faced, though. But you can have him for nothing.

Edited April 8, 2023 by Jeff Fletcher

[Stradling]

11 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

Stassi has been a catcher his whole career,  Thaiss has not.

rOBA

Stassi - .293

Thaiss - .287

Rbat+

Stassi - 79

Thaiss  - 73

HardH%

Stassi - 42.4%

Thaiss  - 41.8%

Offensively I don't see much difference. 

Then I will still take Stassi, you know, the one that has been a catcher his whole career.

[Stradling]

12 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

I heard there's a reliever available.

He had a 2.48 ERA in 69 innings in the majors last year, and he held righties to a .175 average. Apparently he's thrown some bad pitches over the last nine batters he's faced, though. But you can have him for nothing.

Ok, who?  This person either has an Angel resume or we don’t like the guy.  

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Ok, who?  This person either has an Angel resume or we don’t like the guy.  

Lol.  He's talking about Herget.

[Stradling]

It’s Jimmy Herget.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Lol.  He's talking about Herget.

Yep, just found it.  I love how baseball hasn’t taught most fans anything about the marathon of a season.  We live and die on each inning of a 162 game season.  We’ve made conclusions based on less than 5% of the season.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

Here's some more numbers...

3           Chris Sale*  34 BOS 11.25  8.0
4         Chris Bassitt  34 TOR 10.61  9.1
7         Corbin Burnes  28 MIL  9.64  9.1
8         Miles Mikolas  34 STL  9.64  9.1
9         Lucas Giolito  28 CHW  9.00  9.0
10           Lance Lynn  36 CHW  9.00 10.0
13         Blake Snell*  30 SDP  7.88  8.0
14           Zac Gallen  27 ARI  7.59 10.2
15           Aaron Nola  30 PHI  7.45  9.2
17           Logan Webb  26 SFG  6.55 11.0
18         Corey Kluber  37 BOS  6.48  8.1
19         Max Scherzer  38 NYM  6.35 11.1
20   Eduardo Rodriguez*  30 DET  6.30 10.0
21        Nick Martinez  32 SDP  6.17 11.2
22      David Peterson*  27 NYM  6.00  9.0
23        Hunter Greene  23 CIN  5.63  8.0
24         Jacob deGrom  35 TEX  5.59  9.2
25         Zack Wheeler  33 PHI  5.59  9.2
 

Rk                 Name Age  Tm PA   BA  OBP  SLG OPS^
1      Eduardo Escobar#  34 NYM 25 .083 .120 .083 .203
2           Javier Baez  30 DET 27 .080 .148 .080 .228
8            Josh Bell#  30 CLE 33 .115 .273 .115 .388
9          Trey Mancini  31 CHC 25 .182 .208 .182 .390
10         Alex Bregman  29 HOU 37 .152 .243 .152 .395
11       Hunter Renfroe  31 LAA 31 .148 .258 .148 .406
14        Brandon Drury  30 LAA 25 .167 .160 .250 .410
19        Carlos Correa  28 MIN 31 .172 .226 .207 .433
24        Luis Rengifo#  26 LAA 27 .143 .333 .143 .476
26           Bobby Witt  23 KCR 30 .148 .233 .259 .493
29           Max Muncy*  32 LAD 32 .115 .281 .231 .512
30         Ketel Marte#  29 ARI 33 .188 .212 .313 .525
32      George Springer  33 TOR 35 .242 .286 .242 .528
36        Marcus Semien  32 TEX 31 .207 .226 .310 .536
38   Michael Harris II*  22 ATL 25 .217 .280 .261 .541
41      Kyle Schwarber*  30 PHI 31 .161 .161 .387 .548
43         Jeff McNeil*  31 NYM 34 .226 .294 .258 .552
45           Juan Soto*  24 SDP 35 .138 .286 .276 .562
 

[fan_since79]

34 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

Gio is fine where's he at. Lamb...Once Rendon is back, Put him at 3rd, Drury at 1st, and Rengifo at 2nd. You just got to hope we see more of first half Drury from last year. 

I'm hoping Walsh will return before August, but right now we have no idea what's wrong. Privacy, you know. We're not allowed to know anything. It's probably worse than insomnia. 

Best wishes, Jared. We really need your offense. 

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

I heard there's a reliever available.

He had a 2.48 ERA in 69 innings in the majors last year, and he held righties to a .175 average. Apparently he's thrown some bad pitches over the last nine batters he's faced, though. But you can have him for nothing.

Point taken, but if batters have caught on to that pitcher (his own admission), the Halos better tread lightly in the late innings with him.

[Docwaukee]

10 hours ago, ScottT said:

It matters.

You aren't going to win many games with three hits

yep.  and the blew a prime chance to do just that.  

[ten ocho recon scout]

Bull pen? More like Bull shit!

[ten ocho recon scout]

I missed the game. Went to dinner w my GF. Came home, checked the score on my phone, saw that it was 3-1 in the 7th.

"Giod shit, won another one" I thought.

Came upstairs, turned on the TV, saw the replay of Bichettes HR.

Saw that it was now 4-3.

Made the same face Chapman made when he gave up that HR to Altuve a few years ago.

I think I've stolen AJs bad mojo. Sorry fellas.

[Slegnaac]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Then I will still take Stassi, you know, the one that has been a catcher his whole career.

I would too.  But I don't think he is a "helluva lot better than Thaiss".

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Point taken, but if batters have caught on to that pitcher (his own admission), the Halos better tread lightly in the late innings with him.

I know he said that, but that’s pretty dumb. It’s not like they just update the scouting reports at the end of the season. Everyone knew what he was doing all of last season and it still worked because he executed the pitches. 

[Docwaukee]

They need to win games while the offense is getting unlucky.  

.259 BABIP - 4th lowest 
9th best avg exit velo
6th highest hard hit %
5th lowest BA
5th highest BB%
12th best K%

all the peripherals are there for this to be a very dynamic offense.  

In fairness to the pen though:

their k-BB% is 3rd best in baseball.  
They have the 9th highest BABIP
6th highest differential between their ERA and FIP (4.3 and 3.58 respectively)
They've allowed the 9th lowest exit velo with the 11th lowest hard hit rate.  

I just don't love our high leverage options personally and last night was a good example.  I actually do like Herget and think he was the best option to face that part of the order.  But they really do need that high velo type as an option as well.  I'm all in favor of having guys who can get outs, but there are going to be certain situations where opposing players struggle against high velo and you really need to be able to throw that at them.  

I know they want to keep Bachman as a starter for now (he's starting today in fact), but he'd be my first choice to come up and help the pen right now.  Joyce is 1b but he seems the type to just absolutely lose any semblance of control at times.  Which is expected for a rookie but you'd have to live with that.  Thinking Tepera or Loup need a phantom injury soon.  Although we probably see someone like Weiss or Garza first because they're on the 40man.  





 

[ukyah]

14 hours ago, bloodbrother said:

Not a surprise and something they'll have to figure out as the season goes on while hoping it doesn't cost them too much in the early going. I'll care more if we are seeing the same mediocre arms being thrown out there in high leverage situations when we are halfway through the season. 

i understand your point, but that's halfway to not making the post season and way closer to the trade deadline where a certain somebody will be bye bye if the angels are middling.

[Stradling]

52 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

I would too.  But I don't think he is a "helluva lot better than Thaiss".

He is. 

[Docwaukee]

59 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

I would too.  But I don't think he is a "helluva lot better than Thaiss".

he's a much better defensive catcher and by defense I mean all the things that go along with being behind the dish.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

I'd say Thaiss upside is pretty close to Stassi's downside.

[T.G.]

I think a lot of fans have unrealistic expectations of the bullpen. Their overreaction is a byproduct of recent history. Which is sort of understandable.

I know it's cliché, but it is early. I'm not concerned yet. I think the starting pitching is much improved and over the course of the season, it will take some of the burden off the relievers.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, T.G. said:

I think a lot of fans have unrealistic expectations of the bullpen. Their overreaction is a byproduct of recent history. Which is sort of understandable.

I know it's cliché, but it is early. I'm not concerned yet. I think the starting pitching is much improved and over the course of the season, it will take some of the burden off the relievers.

Good point. I think if you look at the starting pitching construction vs the bullpen, one of the major strategies is simply reducing the number of innings that the bullpen needs to throw.

[Spirit]

15 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Blowpen and the rest of the lineup outside of Troutani shat the bed tonight. 

 

Troutani???  I smell new AngelsWin gear! 

 

[fan_since79]

35 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Good point. I think if you look at the starting pitching construction vs the bullpen, one of the major strategies is simply reducing the number of innings that the bullpen needs to throw.

That's up to Nevin, who seems to have a quick hook. The old pitch count obsession?