Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Tank]

41 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Not really "Hot Stove" but I didn't want to waste space with a thread of it's own.  But the following is a tweet thread from TB Rays pitcher Ryan Thompson about his arbitration experience.  He's god a few other comments on his main page.  Anyway, some of you may like to see the players POV.  Old friend Cam Bedrosian was one of the comps brought up in the process.

 

that seems a bit petty by the rays. wow.

[Blarg]

It's just business. You want that raise, prove that you earned it. If they can't, that's on the player for not being prepared properly with their argument. 

[Pancake Bear]

3 hours ago, Blarg said:

It's just business. You want that raise, prove that you earned it. If they can't, that's on the player for not being prepared properly with their argument. 

Fascinating that that is what you got out of Thompson's thread. 

[jsnpritchett]

 

 

[Angels 1961]

56 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

 

He would have been nice depth piece for halos

[Angel Oracle]

28 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

He would have been nice depth piece for halos

Phillips is 6.5 years younger than Calhoun, has hit 18 HRs in past 517 PAs back to 2021, and has solid base running skills (21 for 24 SBs since 2021).

if Ward’s hitting tutor did improve Phillips’ hitting, then he’s a much better alternative to the mid 30s Calhoun.

[mmc]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

He would have been nice depth piece for halos

-1.1 fWAR last season

[m0nkey]

13 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

But the following is a tweet thread from TB Rays pitcher Ryan Thompson about his arbitration experience.  He's god 

 

I mean he's a nice player but I don't know about that

[m0nkey]

12 hours ago, Tank said:

that seems a bit petty by the rays. wow.

Try this one by Corbin Burnes, coming off a year where he led the NL in strikeouts and won the Cy Young the year before.  Teams do this no matter who the player is

 

[Angel Oracle]

Burnes is getting paid real big money in 2 years, and of course it won’t be the cheap Brewers.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, m0nkey said:

I mean he's a nice player but I don't know about that

TY, I fixed it.

[Angels 1961]

3 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Phillips is 6.5 years younger than Calhoun, has hit 18 HRs in past 517 PAs back to 2021, and has solid base running skills (21 for 24 SBs since 2021).

if Ward’s hitting tutor did improve Phillips’ hitting, then he’s a much better alternative to the mid 30s Calhoun.

Phillips is 4th OF I was saying in minors in case of injury. Last 2 years Trout and Ward have missed a lot of time. Phillips they have to play CF to give Trout rest, Phillips does have a very high K rate.

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, mmc said:

-1.1 fWAR last season

A minor league depth piece

[Pancake Bear]

7 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Phillips is 4th OF I was saying in minors in case of injury. Last 2 years Trout and Ward have missed a lot of time. Phillips they have to play CF to give Trout rest, Phillips does have a very high K rate.

Would rather play Phillips. Better defense and I don't think he gives up anything in offense. Kole just isn't particularly good at this point. 

[Blarg]

13 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

Fascinating that that is what you got out of Thompson's thread. 

That's what I got from Tank's response. 

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

That's what I got from Tank's response. 

i don't know a thing about thompson, but i saw two "stats" i'd never heard of before: leverage index and meltdowns. admittedly, i don't pay a lot of attention to advanced metrics, but it seems to me that the team is using a couple of categories that are rather obscure to avoid paying a few more bucks to someone that apparently want to keep. that comes off as petty to me.

 

[T.G.]

I thought "meltdowns" was an AW specific stat used to evaluate AW posters.

[Taylor]

15 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

Predictable that that is what you got out of Thompson's thread. 

Fixed

[Blarg]

10 minutes ago, Tank said:

i don't know a thing about thompson, but i saw two "stats" i'd never heard of before: leverage index and meltdowns. admittedly, i don't pay a lot of attention to advanced metrics, but it seems to me that the team is using a couple of categories that are rather obscure to avoid paying a few more bucks to someone that apparently want to keep. that comes off as petty to me.

 

Thompson's mistake was not showing his Grit index. Rookie mistake in arbitration, I don't think he'll make it again next time. 

[Tank]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Thompson's mistake was not showing his Grit index. Rookie mistake in arbitration, I don't think he'll make it again next time. 

he needs to go to his next arbitration hearing with grass stains and dirt on his uniform. that should seal the deal.

[Blarg]

Don't forget the eye black to show he is serious. 

[Revad]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/02/padres-manny-machado-finalizing-extension.html
 

Arte needs to spend more time in San Diego, smoke a little of what Peter Seidler is smoking.

 

[PattyD22]

4 hours ago, Revad said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/02/padres-manny-machado-finalizing-extension.html
 

Arte needs to spend more time in San Diego, smoke a little of what Peter Seidler is smoking.

 

Wait… Manny went to the media to say it was his last year in San Diego, whipped people into a frenzy, then signed an 11 year extension?

Sounds like “How to get a contract extension in 1 easy step.”

[Revad]

25 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

Wait… Manny went to the media to say it was his last year in San Diego, whipped people into a frenzy, then signed an 11 year extension?

Sounds like “How to get a contract extension in 1 easy step.”

That’s what happened.  I’m finding it hard to believe but $35 million is going price for a star nowadays, for 10 years and ending at age 40 or so.  

[Tank]

33 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

Wait… Manny went to the media to say it was his last year in San Diego, whipped people into a frenzy, then signed an 11 year extension?

Sounds like “How to get a contract extension in 1 easy step.”

there's no such thing as bad publicity. he worked the system well.