Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, mmc said:

 

 

[mmc]

 

[wopphil]

1 hour ago, mmc said:

 

I would have loved Andrus at this price, but I guess we don’t really have the roster space. 

[DMVol]

25 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I would have loved Andrus at this price, but I guess we don’t really have the roster space. 

I don’t think he was considered an upgrade over Rengifo or Fletcher…..

[TempeAngel]

Yeah, plus the Angels already had 6 infielders on MLB contracts.

No room for someone like Andrus. 

[BTH]

5 hours ago, wopphil said:

I would have loved Andrus at this price, but I guess we don’t really have the roster space. 

More than roster space, it’s about playing time.

Andrus has a much clearer path to playing time with Chicago than he would with the Angels.

It’s easier to sell “we have 600 PA’s at 2B” than “with injuries, we could probably get you 450 PA’s if you’re productive.”

[Dtwncbad]

13 hours ago, Trendon said:

More than roster space, it’s about playing time.

Andrus has a much clearer path to playing time with Chicago than he would with the Angels.

It’s easier to sell “we have 600 PA’s at 2B” than “with injuries, we could probably get you 450 PA’s if you’re productive.”

I am not sure I agree.  I think it is roster space and not opportunity.  If the Angels signed Andrus, I can’t see how he is not the everyday starting shortstop.  He would be.

But doesn’t matter now.

[Pancake Bear]

55 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I am not sure I agree.  I think it is roster space and not opportunity.  If the Angels signed Andrus, I can’t see how he is not the everyday starting shortstop.  He would be.

But doesn’t matter now.

He really isn't better than the other options, though, and we'd have to trade or send Rengifo down to the minors to accommodate him. Doesn't make sense for a so-so player coming off a career year he probably can't repeat. 

[TempeAngel]

I think any conversations Perry may have had about signing Andrus probably ended when the Angels signed Brandon Drury on 12/22 as their 6th infielder. 

I don't know if there was ever any serious conversations because they were not getting the pre 2018 Andrus. He's been a below league average SS since 2017 and his OPS+ numbers since 2017 are 78, 78, 60, 73, 103.

I think the White Sox giving him $3 M to play 2B makes sense. He put up some good numbers last year when the White Sox picked him up after he was released by the A's in mid August.

[totdprods]

I feel good about Fletcher, Rengifo, and Velazquez holding down SS. Neto could force the issue too.

I think Urshela, Rendon, Walsh, and Drury staying healthy and productive across the other three spots is a much bigger question mark, tbh.

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

I feel good about Fletcher, Rengifo, and Velazquez holding down SS. Neto could force the issue too.

I think Urshela, Rendon, Walsh, and Drury staying healthy and productive across the other three spots is a much bigger question mark, tbh.

OF is bigger concern it case of injury

[Docwaukee]

4 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

OF is bigger concern it case of injury

of all the IF guys, I think Rengifo will get the most starts in the OF.  It could be Walsh, but I'm betting it's Rengifo.  

[Revad]

9 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

of all the IF guys, I think Rengifo will get the most starts in the OF.  It could be Walsh, but I'm betting it's Rengifo.  

And Drury could be in the mix as well.  This is an interesting mix of players, we’ll see how it works out but I like it.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

3 hours ago, Revad said:

And Drury could be in the mix as well.  This is an interesting mix of players, we’ll see how it works out but I like it.

We will also see if Driveline and workouts in AZ this winter show positive results for Adell as a backup OF.

Edited February 21, 2023 by Ace-Of-Diamonds

[Erstad Grit]

4 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

We will also see if Driveline and workouts in AZ this winter show positive results for Adell as a backup OF.

I think I'd rather Adell start in AAA and get the the innings rather than be our 4th OF

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

23 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I think I'd rather Adell start in AAA and get the the innings rather than be our 4th OF

I was referring to a comment about if an OF was injured; our 4th OF Brett Phillips isn't great.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

Profar anyone?

[mmc]

7 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Profar anyone?

No spot for him, if one our position players gets a serious injury then sure

[Pancake Bear]

We don't exactly have more room for position players unless someone gets moved other than catcher.

[mmc]

 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Profar anyone?

So far not much word on Profar

[BTH]

1 hour ago, Pancake Bear said:

We don't exactly have more room for position players unless someone gets moved other than catcher.

Yeah. They *could* option Walsh or Fletcher, but they’re not gonna do that.

[Angel Oracle]

7 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

I was referring to a comment about if an OF was injured; our 4th OF Brett Phillips isn't great.

Phillips also worked with Ward’s hitting guru in the off-season.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

13 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Phillips also worked with Ward’s hitting guru in the off-season.

I'm still skeptical

[Inside Pitch]

Not really "Hot Stove" but I didn't want to waste space with a thread of it's own.  But the following is a tweet thread from TB Rays pitcher Ryan Thompson about his arbitration experience.  He's got a few other comments on his main page.  Anyway, some of you may like to see the players POV.  Old friend Cam Bedrosian was one of the comps brought up in the process.