Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[AngelsLakersFan]

6 hours ago, HanfordGuy said:

 

Lol, seriously? I mean, I'm a big fan of war but this seems absurd. Just implement a market based solution.

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Lol, seriously? I mean, I'm a big fan of war but this seems absurd. Just implement a market based solution.

At least its FG and and not B-Ref.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

At least its FG and and not B-Ref.

Yeah, that was almost my post instead.

[T.G.]

So, if this had been around the last ten years, Pujols would have owed the Angels money instead?

[greginpsca]

1 minute ago, True Grich said:

So, if this had been around the last ten years, Pujols would have owed the Angels money instead?

No. It is for Arbitration. 

[ettin]

6 hours ago, Dochalo said:

still being thick.  keep going.  

The kids spell it 'thicc', Doc.

[Docwaukee]

8 minutes ago, ettin said:

The kids spell it 'thicc', Doc.

I'm rarely accused of being cool.  

[Revad]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

I'm rarely accused of being cool.  

These young whippersnappers don’t know what cool is; youth is wasted by the young.

[mmc]

 

[Angels 1961]

Canha ok put in OF trade Marsh or Adell pass on Lorenzen

[angelsnationtalk]

Doubt the Angels are in on Canha. Even hard to see the Angels wanting to give Lorenzen a rotation spot considering their need for top rotation arms. 

[HanfordGuy]

On 11/10/2021 at 8:57 AM, ettin said:

You were on a guy named Mark?

[HanfordGuy]

41 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

 

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[tdawg87]

8 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

 

In before 

[HanfordGuy]

17 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

I'll be in my dojo.

 

17 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Scoot over 

 

[Vlad27Trout27]

I personally think that Ray is the best starter for us to go after. He's always had the stuff, it was just the lack of command and he finally put it together! Even if he regress a litte, he still can be a 3 war pitcher! At his best, he can be around 4 war pitcher, a solid 2 for us! 

[ukyah]

corey seager is expected to get more than 300 million?

what?! i am more out of touch than i even suspected.

 

To some extent, it’s only logical to see the markets for certain top-of-the-scale free agents crystallize more quickly than others. Seager is one of the top two names on the market, while Semien is coming off the best season of any of the “second tier” of shortstops — those expected to sign north of $100MM but well beneath the likely $300MM+ price range of Seager and Carlos Correa.

[Inside Pitch]

7 hours ago, ukyah said:

corey seager is expected to get more than 300 million?

what?! i am more out of touch than i even suspected.

 

To some extent, it’s only logical to see the markets for certain top-of-the-scale free agents crystallize more quickly than others. Seager is one of the top two names on the market, while Semien is coming off the best season of any of the “second tier” of shortstops — those expected to sign north of $100MM but well beneath the likely $300MM+ price range of Seager and Carlos Correa.

Seager gets massively underrated by people.  I think Correa gets his due but he's just hated.

Using the names being mentioned here it becomes pretty clear how much better Seager has been than that second tier headlined by Semien.

Through age 27 Semien had a career OPS+ of 96, and we aren't talking about a guy who was just getting started, he had booked nearly 2400 at bats through age 27.  Seager at the same point has a 131 OPS+ with almost the same number of ABs.   To put Seager's 131 into perspective -- Arod from age 20-27 posted an OPS+ of 148, and 144 overall since coming up.  Ernie Banks was at 136 through the same age, Jeter 122, Ripken 125, Trammell 105.   Correa BTW is at 127, but he's a year younger, plays better defense and has managed a larger number of at bats -- so a person could argue he's trending even better anyone available.

But yeah, I don't think you're out of touch, Seager is just one of those guys that people seem to underrate so the general vibe is he's a lesser player than he is.  He's had injury issues and maybe that's the issue -- kind of how Larry Walker was always underrated because he seemed to always break down, but Seager's been a historically great SS, at least offensively.

God Bless Jered Weaver for plunking his brother!   Truly an American hero.

[Inside Pitch]

Kind of a forgotten man out of the pen, but Reyes has been resigned.

 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kind of a forgotten man out of the pen, but Reyes has been resigned.

 

Minor league deal?

[Inside Pitch]

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Minor league deal?

Probably, I don't have any info on it.  I just saw his blurb on Twitter like you did.   

[Docwaukee]

26 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kind of a forgotten man out of the pen, but Reyes has been resigned.

 

I don't even want to say this but I'm maybe kinda, sorta getting a bit bullish on our internal pen options for next year.