Marsh and Adell dilemma in 2022

[angelsnationtalk]

It's a small sample size, a very very small sample size, but seeing how Marsh has adjusted at the plate already and seeing how Adell has handled the outfield as well as cutting down on chasing wild pitches has me at a crossroad. 

The outfield for 2022 is up in the air. I say this given the recent swarm of injuries Mike Trout has had and Justin Upton being practically non-existent. 

Over the last year and a half (and mostly since the trade deadline), I've loved the idea of trading one of Marsh or Adell to the Marlins for a front of the rotation piece. 

Now..... I'm not so sure I want to do that. I know the trade lines up well with the Marlins, but I think we are at a loss if one of those guys go and we have to deal with Upton on the decline and Trout with his history of injuries. 

Thoughts? Anyone else feeling like this?

[totdprods]

Adell and Marsh are playing well enough that if they finish the year like this or better, you should be able to set sights much higher than Max Meyer or another Marlins prospect. 

Doesn’t mean you have to trade one, but I’m glad they didn’t make that move at the deadline. If we move one of these guys, it better be for a relatively proven and tested MLB frontline arm.

It was a good, sensible gamble to bring them up and give them time - they had gone from top prospects to top prospects with some risk/flaws (Adell’s performance, Marsh’s health) and are now looking once again more like top prospects.

Makes it much easier to talk about guys like Castillo or Alcantara or Marquez or Glasnow+ or Flaherty or whatever, where before you were looking more at topping out their value in deals like Marsh for Meyer or other arms with a little more risk, uncertainty, lack of control, etc. Don’t need to trade either but you’ve swung it back into your favor with their value increasing.

Edited August 29, 2021 by totdprods

[IheartLA]

Put Marsh in LF and Adell in RF. DFA or at the least bench Upton. Done.

[ScottT]

Nice dilemma to have.  I like what I've seen from both this year.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

No dilemma in my mind. Ask Trout if he wants to go to LF; if so put Marsh in CF and Adell in RF.
 
I’m not trading either unless it’s for a TOR arm with years of control or a can’t miss pitching prospect. They look like they’re both going to be momentum shifters for us.

[T.G.]

I don’t understand how there’s a dilemma, when the circumstances are out of your control. It’s not like you get to decide…

[ScottT]

There is a dilemma. Marsh and Adell are showing promise, but you still have Upton... and are they definitely better than Upton...  and does the team need a pitcher?

[Revad]

I don’t see a problem here, as has been pointed out over the course of a season there’s plenty of at bats for four outfielders.

[Lou]

I wouldn't call it a dilemma. It's more like a luxury.

[tdawg87]

I don't think we trade either. Marsh is showing he can hang and be a potential 5 WAR player. Adell isn't far behind; he's significantly improved his approach this year and his defense isn't entirely hilarious.

Keep them both. Put Trout in left. Put Upton on the releasedth.

[Lou]

Upton can DH when we sit Ohtani for the last 5 weeks of the season.

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

Upton can DH when we sit Ohtani for the last 5 weeks of the season.

Might as well just let the pitchers hit when Ohtani sits.

[DMVol]

7 hours ago, Revad said:

I don’t see a problem here, as has been pointed out over the course of a season there’s plenty of at bats for four outfielders.

^^^^ 4 OF’ers wasn’t enough to get thru this year….keep them all…rather pay Upton to be a 4th OF’er with us, if Adell and Marsh keep it up, than pay him to play somewhere else…

[totdprods]

I like keeping Upton even if his role is diminished. Much better having him to put in the outfield if someone gets injured than seeing Gosselin, Wong, or Rengifo out there again.

If he’s open to trading his NTC because he wants more playing time and someone calls with interest that’s great too. Otherwise keep ‘em all (unless you need to trade a youngster for an arm).

Wonder if there could be a fit with Upton to the Dodgers for Price? A few things would have to happen for it to make sense but in a way it could work.

Edited August 29, 2021 by totdprods

[Stradling]

Don’t forget The Mike Trout dilemma 

[Inside Pitch]

I hope the young pitchers create a RP dilemma to match our OF dilemma then the Angels can lead the league in positional dilemmas going into the off-season.

[Angel Oracle]

My dilemmas are a dilemma.

[Blarg]

8 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I hope the young pitchers create a RP dilemma to match our OF dilemma then the Angels can lead the league in positional dilemmas going into the off-season.

Maddon will supply most of the dilemmas next year with his lineup cards. 

[Revad]

45 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I hope the young pitchers create a RP dilemma to match our OF dilemma then the Angels can lead the league in positional dilemmas going into the off-season.

That would be cool then we can hire more scouts and take a look at the depth. 

[Slegnaac]

You keep them both because they are inexpensive.  They need low cost players to offset the Trout, Rendon and soon Ohtani contracts.

[Mark68]

It's a dilemma...

wrapped in a conundrum...

inside a quandary.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

It's a dilemma...

wrapped in a conundrum...

inside a quandary.

smothered in Maddon

[Docwaukee]

23 minutes ago, Lou said:

smothered in Maddon

gross

[Second Base]

One of the wisest approaches I've seen guys like Scioscia and Maddon take (and maybe this is more Stoneman and Eppler) is that they don't view anything as a "logjam."

These things have a way of sorting themselves out. Some guy gets hurt, or underperforms, or slides to a different position to meet positional needs, etc... Others step up in unexpected ways to complicate masters. 

I don't see any reason to trade Marsh or Adell, not even for pitching. 

Let it play itself out. 

 

 

[Vlad27Trout27]

Sounds like we might have a Upton Dilemma.