Gameday Thread: Mariners @ Angels (7/17/21): Cobb on the mound, Ward back in RF

[jsnpritchett]

 

 

[stormngt]

Get Mayfield out of there. Put Goos in the infield and put Eaton in the outfield.  Tired of seeing infielders playing outfield.  I understand Goss's bat but Mayfield????

[Revad]

3 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Get Mayfield out of there. Put Goos in the infield and put Eaton in the outfield.  Tired of seeing infielders playing outfield.  I understand Goss's bat but Mayfield????

I agree.

[Vlad27Trout27]

Mayfield at 3rd. 

phil a 3rd baseball in left

Eaton an outfielder on the bench...

 

 

The fuck?

[Blarg]

Often it feels as though Maddon's lineup card is to raise the percentages of getting a better draft pick but the players unknowingly sabotage his plans. 

[Second Base]

You know you've effed up as the GM when....

- Phil Gosselin is your cleanup hitter and starting in LF.

- Jack Mayfield is your starting 3B and you've effectively nutured your AL team into an NL team.

- Juan Lagares has started the most games in CF. 

- You're depending on Dylan Bundy and Jose Quintana in crucial late game moments. 

Perry Minasian has completely failed in his first year as GM. The only bright spots on this team are more the results of Eppler's team building rather than Minasian's. 

Don't get me wrong, it was time for a new GM. But Perry Minasian so far appears to be no better than his predecessors. And that's a low bar for the most part. 

[tdawg87]

Ok so any reason Eaton isn't starting? I don't care who is pitching for the M's. 

[Jason]

7 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Ok so any reason Eaton isn't starting? I don't care who is pitching for the M's. 

To make sure Mayfield gets some ABs to find his game 

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, Second Base said:

You know you've effed up as the GM when....

- Phil Gosselin is your cleanup hitter and starting in LF.

- Jack Mayfield is your starting 3B and you've effectively nutured your AL team into an NL team.

- Juan Lagares has started the most games in CF. 

- You're depending on Dylan Bundy and Jose Quintana in crucial late game moments. 

Perry Minasian has completely failed in his first year as GM. The only bright spots on this team are more the results of Eppler's team building rather than Minasian's. 

Don't get me wrong, it was time for a new GM. But Perry Minasian so far appears to be no better than his predecessors. And that's a low bar for the most part. 

not to make excuses, but we're missing 4 of our starting 9 from opening day.  I think a better way to say it would be that if Gosselin, Mayfield and Lagares are starting for you regularly then you've sustained some fairly catastrophic injuries.  

Minasian has failed so far at giving this team a capable pen though.  I agree with that.  

Typically you can get 3 or so effective relievers without much of a problem.  He pretty much got us 1.  

[jsnpritchett]

10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Ok so any reason Eaton isn't starting? I don't care who is pitching for the M's. 

Well, then you're not going to like the answer--but it's precisely because Kikuchi is starting. Maddon said a couple days ago that he'd sit Eaton against some tough lefties. You can argue the merits of that strategy, but Maddon is doing exactly what he said he'd do. 

[Docwaukee]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Well, then you're not going to like the answer--but it's precisely because Kikuchi is starting. Maddon said a couple days ago that he'd sit Eaton against some tough lefties. You can argue the merits of that strategy, but Maddon is doing exactly what he said he'd do. 

not much to argue with that 110 point ops split vs. lefties in his career and over 200 points this year in a small sample.  

[tdawg87]

8 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Well, then you're not going to like the answer--but it's precisely because Kikuchi is starting. Maddon said a couple days ago that he'd sit Eaton against some tough lefties. You can argue the merits of that strategy, but Maddon is doing exactly what he said he'd do. 

Maddon can lick my taint. 

[beatlesrule]

No GM can foresee the amount of injuries and how long they've been out regarding Trout, Rendon etc but the SP and bullpen are 100% his fault. It's best not to try to figure out Maddon's lineups.

[stormngt]

19 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

not much to argue with that 110 point ops split vs. lefties in his career and over 200 points this year in a small sample.  

What's Mayfield OPS?  Has he even got a hit for the Angel's?  I can't remember one.

[Angel Oracle]

It comes down to comparing Mayfield’s at bats vs Eaton’s vs LHP at bats, and also Eaton’s defense in LF vs Mayfield’s at 3B.

[eligrba4ever]

GO ANGELS!!!!

Go Alex Cobb!! Help launch a winning streak!!

[eligrba4ever]

Theme of the day: Perry is earning a failing grade. Discuss (particularly if the bullpen lays a rotten egg.)

[Jay]

We have both our All-Stars in the lineup!

How can we lose? 

[Slegnaac]

Don't worry, Eaton will PH for Mayfield late in the game.  He will move to the OF and Gosselin will move to 3B.

[Angels Fan Forever]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

Well, then you're not going to like the answer--but it's precisely because Kikuchi is starting. Maddon said a couple days ago that he'd sit Eaton against some tough lefties. You can argue the merits of that strategy, but Maddon is doing exactly what he said he'd do. 

And Eatons splits versus LHP's back it up. But I don't know that Ward can do any better at this point. Ward's splits don't really improve versus LHP's.

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

31 minutes ago, eligrba4ever said:

GO ANGELS!!!!

Go Alex Cobb!! Help launch a winning streak!!

And that's all you should launch while on the mound

[tomsred]

Quite frankly I would rather have Jose Rojas up here for third base than Mayfield.  Mayfield shouldn't be anywhere near a major league team.  I don't believe this is a Maddon problem, it's a Minasian problem.  And I agree most of this is rooted in three of your highest paid players sitting on the injured list for long periods of time, it's catastrophic!

It's a part of the game to properly prepare yourself as a player to remain on the field for most of the year, even if it means you dial it back to some degree.  Garret Anderson was a great example, he found a way to remain playable and avoid injuries to the best extent possible, because not playing at all is a big step down from playing with less risk to injury. 

[Angels Fan Forever]

3 hours ago, stormngt said:

What's Mayfield OPS?  Has he even got a hit for the Angel's?  I can't remember one.

Mayfield has had a total of 12 plate appearances. I think he hits tonight and defense is why Mayfield is up right now and Rojas is in SLC. Mayfield will go back down when Rendon is back.

[tomsred]

7 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

And that's all you should launch while on the mound

Overall he hasn't pitched badly enough to lose his lunch, now Bundy, well that's a different issue, lol.