Aybar and Kendrick

[nate]

I just have a hard time remembering that when I see him have one of those bad games, which usually coincide with when I watch. 

 

That is understandable.  This whole team gives me that feeling.

[Mudville]

Kendrick ranks 4th in batting average, 4th in OBP and 5th in OPS for all second baseman in the majors. Wallyworld has no clue about what he is talking about and those agreeing with him know less because they are just following a whiner's baseless complaint.

[WallyWorld]

Kendrick ranks 4th in batting average, 4th in OBP and 5th in OPS for all second baseman in the majors. Wallyworld has no clue about what he is talking about and those agreeing with him know less because they are just following a whiner's baseless complaint.

 

the whole point of my post is that when you look beyond the numbers and watch the guy actually play, he hurts as much as he helps.  He's also riding a hot streak right now, which we've seen before, and pretty soon he's gonna go cold and be back down to .285, where he always is.  Disagree with me if you want, but do it respectfully and don't tell me I'm a whiner or I have no clue what I'm talking about.

[nate]

He has a 2.0 WAR which means he helps more than he hurts.  So you are still wrong.

[Lifetime]

the whole point of my post is that when you look beyond the numbers and watch the guy actually play, he hurts as much as he helps.  He's also riding a hot streak right now, which we've seen before, and pretty soon he's gonna go cold and be back down to .285, where he always is.  Disagree with me if you want, but do it respectfully and don't tell me I'm a whiner or I have no clue what I'm talking about.

Not sure what you're seeing when you're watching but it's deceiving you. Your perception is not reality. 

[mulwin444]

HK's deal is fine...2B is a tough position to find good offensive/defensive combo.  At .750-.800 OPS + above defense is a solid player

 

Aybar's deal is decent, I guess.  He's a still a mental midget and, if given the choice, I would have kept Segura.

[Torridd]

I don't remember either of these guys being a problem in 2009 when we had Guerrero, Morales and Hunter. The point is these guys aren't the problem. Look to the so-called run producers.

[nate]

F'n Howie just hit a two out double to drive in the tying run.  He sucks!

[Homebrewer]

Aybar and Howie....mediocrity awarded!

Other than 1 GG season, neither of them had done anything to merit extensions.

Warm bodies filling spots, just like Callapso.

Hated it it then, and even with Howie's 2013 season...still do.

Those contracts were red flagged writings on the wall about the future.

Lock up some warm bodies and bring in some big names.

[Homebrewer]

F'n Howie just hit a two out double to drive in the tying run.  He sucks!

I am glad he is doing well, it makes him tradeable.

Use him to get some Minor League pitching from a contender before he cools off.

[Lifetime]

HB, angry curmudgeon returns.

 

Howie has proven to be well worth his reasonable contract. He is not now nor has he been mediocre. 

[nate]

I am glad he is doing well, it makes him tradeable.

Use him to get some Minor League pitching from a contender before he cools off.

 

Yeah and we can call up... err... uhh... oh yeah we don't have anyone to take his place!

 

Lets trade one of our best hitters... hooray!

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

3 RBI triple for Aybar.

[Jimmag]

[Homebrewer]

Lets trade one of our best hitters... hooray!

 

So you must be convinced that he is going to hit 300+ for the rest of his career here, or do you still believe this season matters?

To me that is the only way you DON'T trade him for some pitching if a deal comes along.

I don't buy into either of the above, so I say get something decent for him while you can.

[AngelArcher]

We need more of these threads. Never seems to fail, unless they involve Hamilton and Pujols.

[AngelArcher]

We need more of these threads. Never seems to fail, unless they involve Hamilton and Pujols.

 

See?

 

Pujols with a 2R HR as I posted that.

[SigBaby]

Even putting stats aside, how are Aybar and Howie not winning players?

 

Let's start with Aybar. The guy has been a spark plug and brings energy to the club everyday. Without him, there is not a single player on this team except Trout that brings his kind of energy everyday.

 

Then Howie. He has shown he is a team player. He has played 1st base when he first got called up and played left field when asked. I don't remember ever hearing him complain. Not many players would be willing to fill in other positions if they are already anchored somewhere. Both these guys are winning players

[Jimmag]

AngelArcher,  lol

[George17]

Aybar and Howie....mediocrity awarded!

Other than 1 GG season, neither of them had done anything to merit extensions.

Warm bodies filling spots, just like Callapso.

Hated it it then, and even with Howie's 2013 season...still do.

Those contracts were red flagged writings on the wall about the future.

Lock up some warm bodies and bring in some big names.

I really don't understand what you're expecting the Angels to do here? You can't have elite players at every position so whilst we may not have pedroia or cano or tulo, the two guys we have are in that next level below elite at their position. Sometimes I don't think some of you guys will be happy until the whole team are all star, elite players.

[nate]

Lets trade one of our best hitters... hooray!

 

So you must be convinced that he is going to hit 300+ for the rest of his career here, or do you still believe this season matters?

To me that is the only way you DON'T trade him for some pitching if a deal comes along.

I don't buy into either of the above, so I say get something decent for him while you can.

 

We don't have anyone as good as Howie to play 2b next year or the year after either.  You don't accomplish anything by trading him except opening a new hole.

[Mark68]

Yeah and we can call up... err... uhh... oh yeah we don't have anyone to take his place!

 

Lets trade one of our best hitters... hooray!

Taylor Lindsey, MAYBE...

[stormngt]

the whole point of my post is that when you look beyond the numbers and watch the guy actually play, he hurts as much as he helps.  He's also riding a hot streak right now, which we've seen before, and pretty soon he's gonna go cold and be back down to .285, where he always is.  Disagree with me if you want, but do it respectfully and don't tell me I'm a whiner or I have no clue what I'm talking about.

So in other words, ignore the BA, the OPS and comparing them to other 2nd baseman.  If you do you will conclude he sucks!

[mancini79]

F'n Howie just hit a two out double to drive in the tying run.  He sucks!

You need to look beyond the double.

[mulwin444]

Surely it's not hard to find affordable .750-.800 OPS hitting 2B who can play solid D.  I mean, just compare him to other 2B...wait, that won't work.