大谷翔平 - The Official Shohei Ohtani Thread

[Angel Oracle]

Since ASB, .225/.353/.465/.818

16-71, helped by 14 BBs and 9 XBHs.

4-24 was followed by 8-18 and the. was followed by 4-29.

Let’s hope the 4 days off helped him.

[Blarg]

He played in every game against the Dodgers. That's like you were on vacation for four days except for going into the office every day to complete a couple spreedsheets but not the entire day.

[Chuck]

 

[Chuck]

 

[Duren, Duren]

The future of Ohtani is already generating big interest. Arte better be creative and ready to open the vault. The $50 million or more  per season seems a given. How Ohtani feels will be they key. will he see enough progress to want to sign?  Trout wanted to stay. Will Ohtani? 

Or do the Angels contemplate a massive trade and lose the biggest name and producer in the game? The timing of contract talks will be interesting too. Negotiate early or wait? A lot of things can happen in a couple of years. Both positive and negative. 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/31997589/can-angels-keep-shohei-ohtani-payroll-crisis-looms-los-angeles

[ScottT]

People have said he should pitch full time. People have said he should hit full time.  People have said he should be a reliever and hit.

All of em can suck it.

What an amazing season.  

[WicketMaiden]

Despite a slump with the bat ( .167 / .327 / .684 OPS over the last 15 days) Shohei's WAR continues at a heady pace:

7.4 bWAR - leading by 1.3 over Wheeler (on pace for 10.3 bWAR)

6.8 fWAR - leading by 1.2 over Wheeler (on pace for 9.5 fWAR)

When he breaks his slump with the bat - and there are encouraging signs from the last few days - these figures are going to rocket. 

[Angel Oracle]

19 minutes ago, WicketMaiden said:

Despite a slump with the bat ( .167 / .327 / .684 OPS over the last 15 days) Shohei's WAR continues at a heady pace:

7.4 bWAR - leading by 1.3 over Wheeler (on pace for 10.3 bWAR)

6.8 fWAR - leading by 1.2 over Wheeler (on pace for 9.5 fWAR)

When he breaks his slump with the bat - and there are encouraging signs from the last few days - these figures are going to rocket. 

Crazy thing is, the OPS in that time is still 1.011.

[jsnpritchett]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Crazy thing is, the OPS in that time is still 1.011.

Nah, it's .684.  That's the OPS, not the slugging.  The full slash line is .167/.327/.357 for an OPS of .684.

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

Nah, it's .684.  That's the OPS, not the slugging.  The full slash line is .167/.327/.357 for an OPS of .684.

Thanks, it’s still a solid OBP for the low BA, now that pitchers are unfortunately pitching around him,

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 8/12/2021 at 11:02 PM, ScottT said:

People have said he should pitch full time. People have said he should hit full time.  People have said he should be a reliever and hit.

All of em can suck it.

What an amazing season.  

That reads like a haiku. Its poetic. I like it.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Last night at work i was surrounded by dodger fans. Thankfully they were the good kind (realistic).

First, they talked shit about pujols, but what can i say.

Second, they all raved about shohei. Said its bullshit hes being pitched around.

I think every baseball fan, more or less, is on team ohtani.

[FromJapan]

What Ohtani-san have achieved so far, what he cannot do yet, excluding the titles.

Home run

July 3, 2016 (NPB)

 Starter Ohtani hit a lead-off home run on the first pitch in the top of the 1st inning.

June 13, 2019 (MLB)
  cycle hit

There is no record both in NPB and MLB eras:
 walk-off home run, grand slam

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Pitching

October 16, 2016 (Postseason, NPB)

 DH to closer

 He threw 102.5mph fastball.

There is no record in MLB era:
  shutout

There is no record both in NPB and MLB eras:
  no-no, perfect game

[Chuck]

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

I hope he hits 50 so bad....

Not because 50 helps the team. It isnt 72. It isnt 62. 40 is respectable as all hell.

But 50 has always been the "holy shit!" benchmark.

That alone puts him in rare territory. Then if he leads MLB its historic. Add the pitching, and people will be talking about him 50 years from now.

[Chuck]

13 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

I hope he hits 50 so bad....

Not because 50 helps the team. It isnt 72. It isnt 62. 40 is respectable as all hell.

But 50 has always been the "holy shit!" benchmark.

That alone puts him in rare territory. Then if he leads MLB its historic. Add the pitching, and people will be talking about him 50 years from now.

Can you imagine if he hit 50 HR, stole 25 bases and pitched to a 2.50 ERA with 150 Ks & 10 Wins.

What's insane is all of the above is within reach if he finishes strong on both sides of the game.

[Angel Oracle]

That F’ing first inning in NY….

Otherwise, would have the second best starter ERA in the AL amongst pitchers with at least 90 innings.

[Blarg]

Get over it, he pitched in that game and has to carry the responsibility. 

[Angel Oracle]

4 hours ago, Blarg said:

Get over it, he pitched in that game and has to carry the responsibility. 

True, and he has since then.

Five starts, 32 innings, 1.69 ERA, 0.75 WHIP, 29/4 Ks/BBs, 1 HR

Despite averaging almost 6.5 innings in those starts, average pitch count was just 94.

Four of those five teams faced have had good offenses.

That is ace material.

Edited August 15, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[WicketMaiden]

On 8/15/2021 at 8:14 AM, Chuckster70 said:

Can you imagine if he hit 50 HR, stole 25 bases and pitched to a 2.50 ERA with 150 Ks & 10 Wins.

What's insane is all of the above is within reach if he finishes strong on both sides of the game.

Shohei is currently on pace for:

53 HR; 23 Stolen bases; 152 K's; 9.5 Wins. ERA is a bit more tricky, but...

ERA each month (not aggregated):

3.29 Mar/Apr

2.38 May

4.94 June

1.35 July

2.25 Aug

He currently has a 2.93 ERA for the season over 92 innings and 17 starts averaging 5 and 2/3 innings per start: so assuming he has 6 more starts and goes 6 innings average in each, he will need to post an ERA over those games of 1.25 giving up just 5 more runs for the season. A 1.50 ERA and 6 runs over the same stretch would give him an ace-like 2.53 ERA.

[Jason]

Shohei Ohtani's hometown loves him (mlb.com)

This is pretty cool. 

[Chuck]

 

[T.G.]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

 

Stephen A. Smith is not impressed.

[Angel Oracle]

Suzuki, watch those catchers frame pitches, and LEARN.

[Lhalo]