Update: Cardinals players, Phillies coach and staffer test positive - 15 Marlins players and two coaches test positive, games postponed

[Inside Pitch]

BTW -- the fact that MLB didnt think it was enough to warrant not playing.   Yikes...

[Blarg]

Mattingly just showed he is incapable of managing a team under these circumstances and should be fired. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Yea, I had misunderstood.  

Honest mistake to make from the conversation we had.

[zenmaster]

Horrendous that a bunch of non-medically trained players get to make the decision on whether to play or not. This sounds like an MLB fail if they didn't have a process in place to address this. Of course players are going to want to play. 

[Lou]

"MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reported that the four who tested positive are starting pitcher Jose Urena, first baseman/outfielder Garrett Cooper, outfielder Harold Ramirez and catcher Jorge Alfaro.

Urena, who was scheduled to start Sunday’s game, was announced as a scratch about 90 minutes before first pitch. Robert Dugger started in his place. Mattingly told Dugger he was starting at about 8:30 a.m.

Ramirez started in right field on Friday and Saturday. Cooper was the designated hitter Friday and first baseman Saturday. Alfaro, expected to start the bulk of Miami’s game behind the plate, was placed on the IL for undisclosed reasons about two hours before first pitch on Friday."

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Honest mistake to make from the conversation we had.

Get a room.

[eligrba]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

Mattingly just showed he is incapable of managing a team under these circumstances and should be fired. 

Not to be political, but using your criteria, we would need lots of leadership replacements at the state and federal levels.

[Claude]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Yet there are relatively safe ways to play sports during this, they are choosing not to.  

When it gets to a point where teams are having to cancel games because of positive tests then it starts to become a chaotic situation. You can’t expect teams to just throw any nine bodies out there just to satisfy thier obligation to play scheduled games and continue to remain competitive. You can’t expect teams to reroute their travel, hotels, equipment and personnel every time their opponent has an outbreak. With five months of planning all of the protocols for this, Covid-19 is proving to be too big to avoid. They didn’t think this thing through enough. But I told you two months ago this would most likely happen. 

 

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, RendZone said:

When it gets to a point where teams are having to cancel games because of positive tests then it starts to become a chaotic situation. You can’t expect teams to just throw any nine bodies out there just to satisfy thier obligation to play scheduled games and continue to remain competitive. You can’t expect teams to reroute their travel, hotels, equipment and personnel every time their opponent has an outbreak. With five months of planning all of the protocols for this, Covid-19 is proving to be too big to avoid. They didn’t think this thing through enough. But I told you two months ago this would most likely happen. 

 

Oh cool, the I told you so dude showed up.  

Once again, you are being obtuse and responding to a post that isn’t really saying any of what you are typing about.  

Yes there are safe ways to do this.  Virtually every single person still working has had to change how they do things.  If MLB teams all made the changes then there is a lot less chance of an outbreak.  Is it still possible, of course, just like it is in every other facet of life.  

[Blarg]

5 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Not to be political, but using your criteria, we would need lots of leadership replacements at the state and federal levels.

Let's not go there and focus on how blantantly incompetent the entire MArlins organization is. 

[Stradling]

Also Clod in our defense for not listening to you, you have been wrong, a lot.  

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Oh cool, the I told you so dude showed up.  

Once again, you are being obtuse and responding to a post that isn’t really saying any of what you are typing about.  

Yes there are safe ways to do this.  Virtually every single person still working has had to change how they do things.  If MLB teams all made the changes then there is a lot less chance of an outbreak.  Is it still possible, of course, just like it is in every other facet of life.  

Like cricket?

[Amazing Larry]

 

[eligrba]

3 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Let's not go there and focus on how blantantly incompetent the entire MArlins organization is. 

The bottom line is if the Marlins hit like the Angels, this is a non-issue.  The only people exposed would be the catcher and possibly the first baseman as the runner runs by on their way back to the dugout.

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, eligrba said:

The bottom line is if the Marlins hit like the Angels, this is a non-issue.  The only people exposed would be the catcher and possibly the first baseman as the runner runs by on their way back to the dugout.

The COVID Angels kept trying to infect other people, but the particles were LOB.

[Inside Pitch]

18 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Let's not go there and focus on how blantantly incompetent the entire MArlins organization is. 

That was my initial reaction as well, but a lot of the reports today say MLB knew and did nothing to stop it.   So, there is a lot of blame to go around.

[Taylor]

Manfred should take a cognitive test.

[Claude]

18 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Also Clod in our defense for not listening to you, you have been wrong, a lot.  

The Yankees have now left Philadelphia to return back to NY without playing two scheduled games. This isn’t working and you need to stop pretending that it will. 

[Stradling]

Just now, RendZone said:

The Yankees have now left Philadelphia to return back to NY without playing two scheduled games. This isn’t working and you need to stop pretending that it will. 

Ok.  See you next time you quote me.  Bye.

[Chuck]

15 players and two coaches of the Marlins get Covid-19, yet all of the players they came in contact with over a 3-game series tested negative. 

Wow! 

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

They have Mattingly flat out saying they knew players tested positive, and they never once for a second considered not playing.    It's pretty brutal.

https://theathletic.com/1954316/2020/07/26/why-did-the-marlins-play-baseball-on-sunday/

 

Suspensions for those in the know

[Adam]

I can see the end of seasons standings now

1st place - 34-26

2nd place - 28-19

3rd place 7-4

[Stradling]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

15 players and two coaches of the Marlins get Covid-19, yet all of the players they came in contact with on the Phillies tested negative. 

Wow! 

Well it does take 3-5 days for symptoms to occur, and I truly think team to team transmission risk is incredibly low on a baseball field.  

[Chuck]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Well it does take 3-5 days for symptoms to occur, and I truly think team to team transmission risk is incredibly low on a baseball field.  

Would be interesting if they're still negative by the end of the week. 

But like you said, the transmission risk is pretty low. 

Any idea where the Marlins contracted the virus? 

[Angel Oracle]

Both the Marlins and Citizens Bunk Park share blame.

Someone mentioned to me that it was raining during one of the weekend games, and that those in charge of Citizens Bunk Park should have provided protection in the stands, to keep those players dry and away from the others so that the players didn't have to huddle in the dugout.