Update: Cardinals players, Phillies coach and staffer test positive - 15 Marlins players and two coaches test positive, games postponed

[Lou]

Jeter loves viruses. 

[nate]

I am sure he has quite a few based on some of the women he has spent time with

Mod note: Jeter bashing is not political, it is patriotic.

[gotbeer]

4 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Can you get the virus from someone that is wearing a mask? Unless that person is like sneezing on you up super close, I don't see how 2 people wearing masks can spread the virus if they have it or if one person with the virus wearing a mask can give it to a person not wearing a mask that doesn't have the virus. I see a lot of these players not wearing masks but then again, they are outside. I have a hard time believing the Marlins players got the virus while playing baseball on the field. I think they got it elsewhere because they didn't wear a mask or wash their hands. All speculative of course but that's what makes sense to me.

Yes you can get the virus from someone that is wearing a mask.  the mask helps greatly lessen the possibility though.  For instance, the top of the line is a n95 mask.  That keeps in/out 95% of air flow, problem is it also restricts in and out 95% of oxygen and carbon dioxide.  So if two people are wearing a mask, but one is a super spreader, then even at 6 feet apart, that other person can get it.  Also the players are probably not going to be wearing a n95, and just have on standard masks, because as athletes, they need that flow of oxygen.  

More than likely the spread was probably in the dugout, on the bus, at the team meeting, in the locker, etc.  Especially when we are talking about 13 people getting it.  But it could also mean that they have a super spreader in there, and if so, if a player from another team comes in contact with them, they could get it.  Again, there is no tests yet that say that someone on the Phillies got it, but since it was only announced Sunday and Monday.  My guess is the Phillies players may still be asymptomatic/testing negative or no results have come in yet.  That's the danger of the Phillies still playing, you just don't know who are safe, and who should be out.  

[gotbeer]

12 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

You mean the mighty Jeets couldn't prevent this?    According to Yankee fans, he can walk on water.

It depends on if Jeets sanitized his balls or not.  

[RallyMo]

18 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

For instance, the top of the line is a n95 mask.  That keeps in/out 95% of air flow, problem is it also restricts in and out 95% of oxygen and carbon dioxide.

Whooooooa there. That's not remotely accurate. I had an N95 on for like 13 hours the other day. If what you stated was the case, I'd be rather dead right now.

[nate]

1 minute ago, fishbulb said:

Whooooooa there. That's not remotely accurate. I had an N95 on for like 13 hours the other day. If what you stated was the case, I'd be rather dead right now.

Yeah, there would be quite a few dead surgeons if that was the case.

Please don't spread the oxygen/co2 conspiracy @gotbeer it is entirely untrue and dangerous.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Yeah, there would be quite a few dead surgeons if that was the case.

Please don't spread the oxygen/co2 conspiracy @gotbeer it is entirely untrue and dangerous.

For hikers it's very true and not a conspiracy.  

[RallyMo]

Just now, nate said:

Yeah, there would be quite a few dead surgeons if that was the case.

Please don't spread the oxygen/co2 conspiracy @gotbeer it is entirely untrue and dangerous.

I've been wearing masks for like 12-14 hours a day most days since late March. I've died about 100 times. I'm getting a little tired of it.

[RallyMo]

2 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

For hikers it's very true and not a conspiracy.  

It's not true that it restricts air flow by 95%, even for the hikiest of hikers. Also, what hiker in their right mind would even consider wearing an N95?

[nate]

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the "N95" is a government efficiency rating that means the mask blocks about 95 percent of particles that are 0.3 microns in size or larger

Oxygen is .00005 microns in size

CO2 is .00065 microns in size

Anyway, lets get back on topic.  Season over!

[Claude]

Bottom line is that whatever protocol they have in place is not working for some MLB teams. This season may end up getting flushed eventually. 

[gotbeer]

7 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

It's not true that it restricts air flow by 95%, even for the hikiest of hikers. Also, what hiker in their right mind would even consider wearing an N95?

I don't even wear a regular mask most of the time hiking.  Just too dangerous in a number of ways.

[Blarg]

4 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

I've been wearing masks for like 12-14 hours a day most days since late March. I've died about 100 times. I'm getting a little tired of it.

I have very few opportunities to wear a mask in that I work from home for the majority of my schedule. I drive to an office once, maybe twice a week for about 3 hours but have no face to face contact with anyone. I'm usually in and out of the office earlier than anyone else and have my own private room. 

I have no idea how the logistics works with moving a sports team and their support staff cross States without someone getting infected. Between air and bus travel along with accommodations and interaction with the general public it was bound to happen someone got infected and it travels through the team. 

[RallyMo]

4 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

I don't even wear a regular mask most of the time hiking.  Just too dangerous in a number of ways.

Right. So even if it was remotely realistic that CO2 and O2 were limited by 95%, why is this even an issue for hikers?

[RallyMo]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I have very few opportunities to wear a mask in that I work from home for the majority of my schedule. I drive to an office once, maybe twice a week for about 3 hours but have no face to face contact with anyone. I'm usually in and out of the office earlier than anyone else and have my own private room. 

I have no idea how the logistics works with moving a sports team and their support staff cross States without someone getting infected. Between air and bus travel along with accommodations and interaction with the general public it was bound to happen someone got infected and it travels through the team. 

Of course this was bound to happen.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, fishbulb said:

Right. So even if it was remotely realistic that CO2 and O2 were limited by 95%, why is this even an issue for hikers?

Have you ever hiked in altitude?

[gotbeer]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I have very few opportunities to wear a mask in that I work from home for the majority of my schedule. I drive to an office once, maybe twice a week for about 3 hours but have no face to face contact with anyone. I'm usually in and out of the office earlier than anyone else and have my own private room. 

I have no idea how the logistics works with moving a sports team and their support staff cross States without someone getting infected. Between air and bus travel along with accommodations and interaction with the general public it was bound to happen someone got infected and it travels through the team. 

That's the thing.  Unlike the NBA and NHL, for the MLB, it's constantly a bunch of moving targets.  

Add in, MLB players still go home.  So that's another avenue for infection.  

[ukyah]

4 hours ago, halonatic13 said:

I'm wondering how these players/coaches got the virus.  Haven't they all been tested and been together longer than 2 weeks?

mlb doesn't have a bubble.

[Lhalo]

Healthy Marlins are still traveling.

 

[RallyMo]

Just now, gotbeer said:

Have you ever hiked in altitude?

If hikers don't wear masks and N95s are totally inappropriate for hikers, why are N95 masks an issue for hikers?

Also, they don't restrict 95% of your air.

[Blarg]

Why are we talking about a couple random idiots wandering around at high altitude as if that is any cross section of society? @gotbeer your hiking is a non issue so let it go.

[Angel Oracle]

6 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Healthy Marlins are still traveling.

 

And now we know why 60 man rosters were set up.   The Marlins will need to dig deep into it. 

[nate]

Basically the Marlins AAA team is going to play the Orioles

[Blarg]

And that changes their team makeup how?

[Blarg]

Holy shit, Nate, you completely ruined a comedic payoff.