Update: Cardinals players, Phillies coach and staffer test positive - 15 Marlins players and two coaches test positive, games postponed

[Claude]

17 minutes ago, Blarg said:

We should shut down and cancel Florida. 

I blame Chucks vacation party house. 

[Stradling]

Just now, nate said:

That is based off of old guidance.  Before that it was 30 minutes.  Now the amount of time is not listed as a limit.

Source: Weekly conference calls with CDC leadership.

They also originally said everyone should quarantine for 14 days, now they are saying if you came in close contact you should quarantine for three days and then get tested.  If negative you are safe.

Thanks Nate.  That would explain some things.  I wasn’t trying to come across like an asshole, but I knew I had read something and felt like there was a bunch of over reaction to all of this.  

[nate]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Once again, not a hill I am willing to die on, but I just think there are very minimal risk from team to team.  

You are correct that outdoor transmission is extremely rare, which is why the protests didn't lead to massive outbreaks.  However it only takes one person, and since they all end up in a locker room at some point, the risk is higher, and since they are travelling they are coming in contact with a lot more people than the average person.  It isn't just about their safety but the safety of the people they come in contact with.

[bloodbrother]

Couldn't even make it through the first weekend of the season for this to happen

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, nate said:

You are correct that outdoor transmission is extremely rare, which is why the protests didn't lead to massive outbreaks.  However it only takes one person, and since they all end up in a locker room at some point, the risk is higher, and since they are travelling they are coming in contact with a lot more people than the average person.  It isn't just about their safety but the safety of the people they come in contact with.

Yep, as I was looking up information the most recent information online I found (granted I didn’t look for too long) was from June 20th still stating that 6 feet at plus or minus 15 minutes is what is considered close contact.  I would probably limit the use of clubhouse attendants due to exposure.  They can all come in after the team leaves.  They can wear gloves and masks and clean and disinfect the entire clubhouse and it really isn’t going to take very long.  Maybe a couple of hours to disinfect an entire clubhouse.  But like you said the fact that it doesn’t really live on surfaces that long it is mostly to make people feel better or safer.

[DMVol]

3 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Couldn't even make it through the first weekend of the season for this to happen

I thought they might get to Labor Day....no way football is happening, I don't think....

[namssa]

37 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Once again, not a hill I am willing to die on, but I just think there are very minimal risk from team to team.  

Tell that to Eduardo Rodriguez.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-pitcher-eduardo-rodriguez-confirms-hes-dealing-with-heart-issue-stemming-from-covid-19-infection/

[mmc]

Seriously doubt they'd cancel the season based off of this information alone, I'm sure they were fully expecting something like this to happen at some point.

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, namssa said:

Tell that to Eduardo Rodriguez.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-pitcher-eduardo-rodriguez-confirms-hes-dealing-with-heart-issue-stemming-from-covid-19-infection/

So I should tell him that the risk of giving it from one team to another is minimal?  Ok, seems kinda mean.  

[fan_since79]

If we win today we'll finish the season at .500 with a record of 2-2.

When do pitchers and catchers report again??

 

[failos]

I read it’s 14 Marlins with COVID, not 11

[failos]

Survival of the fittest methinks. COVID is taking out the weakest of teams—I’m not surprised the Marlins are the first to bear the brunt of this.

[Chuck]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

The hell with this. I have a house there. 

I love Florida! 

[zenmaster]

5 minutes ago, failos said:

Survival of the fittest methinks. COVID is taking out the weakest of teams—I’m not surprised the Marlins are the first to bear the brunt of this.

That's the first place Marlins you are talking about!

[failos]

Just now, zenmaster said:

That's the first place Marlins you are talking about!

Dude, nature knows that’s a fluke!

[Stradling]

7 minutes ago, failos said:

I read it’s 14 Marlins with COVID, not 11

11 players 3 coaches.

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Are you saying the coaches aren’t part of the Marlins?

No, I am clarifying, because there was confusion.

[Lou]

1 hour ago, yk9001 said:

The first baseman is exposed to a lot of different people.

If Ohtani is pitching.

One of the best baseball-related posts I've read in a long time. 

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, calscuf said:

It sounds like you don’t consider coaches part of the team.

Ok. Then I am a bad communicator.  

[Lou]

Just now, nate said:

This is specifically about MLB, why is this in the Political forum?

I agree. 

[nate]

Please everyone remember to keep politics out of this thread, you can use the spin forum for that.  Let's keep the discussion to MLB and Covid.

[Chuck]

Just now, nate said:

Please everyone remember to keep politics out of this thread, you can use the spin forum for that.  Let's keep the discussion to MLB and Covid.

Thank you, @nate. You've done a good job moderating this thread. 

I appreciate it! 

[Duren, Duren]

Should have used the 'hub city' idea. The premise of the lockdown is to minimize contact and exposure. Travel just magnifies the risk. All the logistics of moving from city to city exponentially add to the danger.

Also note how casual things have been in the games so far. Some with masks, many without. Hardly any legitimate social distancing in the dugouts and stands where players were together. First basemen and runners often chatty or within a few feet of each other. 

Some spreading was inevitable. But there should be no panic and reflexive reaction to shut it all down. Like random injuries that hit some teams more than others it has to be viewed as the breaks of the game. Only if there are multiple teams with heavy roster contagion should the season be suspended/cancelled. 

[beatlesrule]

Can you get the virus from someone that is wearing a mask? Unless that person is like sneezing on you up super close, I don't see how 2 people wearing masks can spread the virus if they have it or if one person with the virus wearing a mask can give it to a person not wearing a mask that doesn't have the virus. I see a lot of these players not wearing masks but then again, they are outside. I have a hard time believing the Marlins players got the virus while playing baseball on the field. I think they got it elsewhere because they didn't wear a mask or wash their hands. All speculative of course but that's what makes sense to me.

[Angel Oracle]

You mean the mighty Jeets couldn't prevent this?    According to Yankee fans, he can walk on water.