SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[UndertheHalo]

I mean everyone knows the real problem with Americans fucking abortion of a response to this crisis is that unemployed minimum wage workers got 600 fucking extra dollars on a check for a few months. 

[Lhalo]

22 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I mean everyone knows the real problem with Americans fucking abortion of a response to this crisis is that unemployed minimum wage workers got 600 fucking extra dollars on a check for a few months. 

What is the real problem? Californians all seem to be wearing masks yet here we are, shut down.

[Stradling]

21 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I mean everyone knows the real problem with Americans fucking abortion of a response to this crisis is that unemployed minimum wage workers got 600 fucking extra dollars on a check for a few months. 

If you were an employer and the employees you hired and spent money on training then had to furlough because of all of this, if those people chose not to come back when you were able to open back up because of the extra $600 would you rehire them in the future?  For me, it would take extreme conditions for me to rehire that person if they refused to come back when we initially opened back up.

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

What is the real problem? Californians all seem to be wearing masks yet here we are, shut down.

Because they aren’t socially distancing when they amongst people they trust and they aren’t wearing masks around those people.  I mean this isn’t very difficult of a concept.  We are excluding people right and left because someone in their family tested positive.  

[Jason]

30 minutes ago, Stradling said:

If you were an employer and the employees you hired and spent money on training then had to furlough because of all of this, if those people chose not to come back when you were able to open back up because of the extra $600 would you rehire them in the future?  For me, it would take extreme conditions for me to rehire that person if they refused to come back when we initially opened back up.

My brother is a chiropractor and he said they furloughed a few office staff and then called them back when they reopened. They told him no thank you as they were making more on unemployment. He told them not to call him back when that runs out 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

My brother is a chiropractor and he said they furloughed a few office staff and then called them back when they reopened. They told him no thank you as they were making more on unemployment. He told them not to call him back when that runs out 

Yep.  Totally makes sense.  Short term gains are never a good idea.  Imagine trying to find a job right now.  

[Jason]

30 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Because they aren’t socially distancing when they amongst people they trust and they aren’t wearing masks around those people.  I mean this isn’t very difficult of a concept.  We are excluding people right and left because someone in their family tested positive.  

I believe enough is not known about the virus yet and the distancing and mask wearing may not even be enough to stop it. It may just be part of our lives now and we’ll have to live with that fact. People forget that we have all kinds of viruses and bacteria that we can never get rid of and we live with. This is no different as this is how they operate.  

[Stradling]

And even if it isn’t enough it doesn’t mean it doesn’t help.  

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

And even if it isn’t enough it doesn’t mean it doesn’t help.  

True but I feel like that we are just postponing the inevitable. We all agree that we can’t stay locked down forever but how long can we go on with the social distancing and mask wearing? I believe that if everyone wore a mask and distances themselves we’d see a huge drop in cases but the day we don’t do that it will come roaring back. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Jason

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Redondo said:

Pelosi says ‘no’ regrets after initial downplaying of coronavirus earlier this year

It's ok for her to do that because the MSM will back her up.

Imagine if any Republican said that.

Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, st1ckboy said:

OC Board of Education Panel Calls for a Fall Return to Classes with No Masks or DistancingVoice of OC
https://voiceofoc.org/2020/07/oc-board-of-education-considers-schools-returning-with-no-masks-or-distancing/

 

Both sides just can't seem to be able to meet in the middle.  It's either one extreme or the other.

[St1ck]

14 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands

A lot of people made mistakes about this virus early on. Some still do.

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

No, it wasn’t. 

Fine!

[RallyMo]

19 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands

Now imagine somebody saying that or something like it A WEEK AGO. Get the F out.

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

If you were an employer and the employees you hired and spent money on training then had to furlough because of all of this, if those people chose not to come back when you were able to open back up because of the extra $600 would you rehire them in the future?  For me, it would take extreme conditions for me to rehire that person if they refused to come back when we initially opened back up.

i suspect the people who decline to come back to work don’t do so for a lot of reasons.  Some of them less reasonable than others.  If people don’t come back because the 600 dollars makes that big of difference to them even in the short term.   Then I think that it’s probably reasonable to assume it’s terribly paying menial job.  Probably not full time. Etc.  I can’t tell you how indifferent I am to someone who’s mad that they have 15 or 20 hour a week minimum wage worker not coming back.  Is that a blanket truth ?  Of course not.  Like I said, people who aren’t going back to work probably don’t for a lot of reasons.  The post was someone butt hurt that someone is getting $600 they think they don’t deserve.  Fucking cry more.  I am unable to fathom the insane pettiness of someone who’s mad at an out of work probably poor person coming up a little bit for a temporary period of time.  Be happy you’re still working.  Christ knows I am.  Imagine being jealous of an out of work former Marshall’s employee. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

What is the real problem? Californians all seem to be wearing masks yet here we are, shut down.

Plenty of people not wearing masks.  You think everyone at the Memorial Day party was wearing a mask ?

[UndertheHalo]

This idea that there has been wide spread cooperation with mask advisories anywhere outside of like NY and NJ is ridiculous.  You guys will kick and scream and fucking bitch no matter what.  You people are the reason that this nightmare keeps getting worse. 

[UndertheHalo]

Seems to me that 600 dollars in no small way is probably keeping the thrashed economy on life support. 

[UndertheHalo]

And the economy has been dog shit for a decade.  The stock market is not the beginning and the end  of broad economic health. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[Lhalo]

12 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

And the economy has been dog shit for a decade.

Link?

[St1ck]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

Link?

 

[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Link?

Yes

[gotbeer]

40 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Some good news, my wife doesn’t have it.  

time for you and sparky to quarantine yourselves in private.

[Tank]

5 hours ago, calscuf said:

Yeah, that’s what we look like, just less cool and one guy is Mexican.

[mmc]

New cases by state today