SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[mmc]

New cases by country today.

[St1ck]

8 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

New cases by state today

Watch the cases in Texas and Florida disappear after the election.

[Blarg]

PSA courtesy of the 1918 Spanish Flu.

[Sully151]

2 hours ago, Randy Gradishar said:

Well it's the pro-Sandy Hook crowd, so at least they're consistent.

I have some friends who teach in OC though, so hopefully this doesn't happen. Also, I like how the BoE doesn't mention teachers at all; just that the kids will be fine (which they won't).

My wife, who is a teacher, thanks you for thinking of her.

The good news is the Board of Education has no power to make such decisions. The whole thing was a dog and pony show for the anti maskers. Even the public speakers were plants for the most part. One even said that teachers who didn’t want to return to the classroom because of Covid had sold their souls to the devil. Complete bullshit.

my wife’s district Superintendent sent an email out saying they were staying on line. 

[UndertheHalo]

3 hours ago, Blarg said:

PSA courtesy of the 1918 Spanish Flu.

Time is a flat circle. 

[Redondo]

Calif. school board votes on guidelines to reopen, calls remote learning ‘utter failure’

The conservative-leaning Orange County Board of Education in California on Monday evening voted in favor of guidelines that call for the reopening district schools in time for fall classes and said it would not require social distancing and mask-wearing for its students.

The OC Register reported that the school board, which approved the recommendations in a 4-to-1 vote, has no power to demand the county’s 27 school districts to reopen and the ultimate decision will rest with individual districts. The Orange County Department opposes reopening, the report said.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the school board pointed to a white paper with safety recommendations and called the months of widespread remote learning an “utter failure” for students.

The board does call for temperature checks and nightly disinfection of classrooms, the Times reported.

CBS Los Angeles reported that the board held a meeting last month with experts who said in the paper that requiring masks for students "is not only difficult but may even be harmful over time.”

 

[Redondo]

Dr. Nicole Saphier: School reopenings – as a mom and physician, this is how we can reach our goal

 

[Crampknees]

1 hour ago, Redondo said:

Dr. Nicole Saphier: School reopenings – as a mom and physician, this is how we can reach our goal

 

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more FOX News links. 

[Redondo]

1 hour ago, Karenknees said:

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more FOX News links. 

Good chance to read something besides Facebook or Twitter. 

[tdawg87]

1 hour ago, Redondo said:

Good chance to read something besides Facebook or Twitter. 

No I see this garbage on FB all the time.

[Blarg]

You should seek medical help immediately.

[gotbeer]

5 hours ago, Redondo said:

Calif. school board votes on guidelines to reopen, calls remote learning ‘utter failure’

 

 

Here is the big elephant in the room regarding schools.  

is the media and government correct in that social distancing needs to be in place, even in schools?  is the Syracuse paper I linked earlier correct in that the youth are less prone to the Rona?

Regardless of either viewpoint.  The simple fact is Calolfornia is $50 billion in the red.  Cuts have to be made.  And the last two elections have proved that Calolfornian's are tired of continued tax increases to fund education.  

So going back to social distancing.  Can you cut the classrooms by 50% or even 75% like businesses are asking.  That means we need 2x to 3x more teachers, because the number of students will not change.  We are talking a huge tax increase, or huge decreases in other areas to accomplish this, in a time when the state deficit already should dictate a contraction of the government.  (not going to happen, but that would be the fiscally responsible thing to do)

So that leaves it to open or not open.  Would the development of the students be severely impacted, if online learning continued.  That's a complicated one.  I think the biggest blow is going to come in the K-6 range.  That's when the social and intellectual building blocks are most important.  The longer you keep them out, the bigger the damage is going to be.  Further up the line in middle and high school range, online learning might make more sense.  

But then you got the other issue.  In the LAUSD, it's announced that 100% have access to computers and internet now.  That sounds great on paper.  They also said real quietly that 15% have never used those computers since the schools closed down.  That's a huge amount.  Then you have other issues like childcare, feeding, teaching all the responsibility of the parents.  Yeah, that's not going to work well.

So I can see why the OC is pushing to open.  We are pretty much in the Kobayashi Maru of education right now.  

 

[Lhalo]

10 hours ago, Blarg said:

PSA courtesy of the 1918 Spanish Flu.

Mask orders were very rare during the Spanish Flu and they were only implemented on a city by city basis. One of the few cities to enforce a mask order was San Francisco and that was only from October 18 - November 21 and again from January 17 - February 1. Even then they didn't shut down the economy and hand out a bunch of checks like fucking fools.

On numerous occasions throughout the fall of 1918 and winter of 1919, Hassler (San Francisco Health Officer) had made statements that San Francisco was the only large city in the entire world to check its epidemic so quickly. By mid-February 1919, however, when the United States Public Health Service released figures on the nation’s epidemic, it became clear that Hassler had been wrong: San Francisco was reported as having suffered the most of all major American cities, with a death rate approaching 30 deaths per 1,000 people.

https://www.influenzaarchive.org/cities/city-sanfrancisco.html#

[m0nkey]

20 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You should seek medical help immediately.

It is not an epidemic though.  

 

Right cals?

[gotbeer]

57 minutes ago, calscuf said:

I have lost my sense of smell.

Pull my finger.

[gotbeer]

Just got back from Costco.  Looks like there is going to be another run on goods.  The line is crazy long to get in.  

[Rico]

 

[Sully151]

4 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Here is the big elephant in the room regarding schools.  

is the media and government correct in that social distancing needs to be in place, even in schools?  is the Syracuse paper I linked earlier correct in that the youth are less prone to the Rona?

Regardless of either viewpoint.  The simple fact is Calolfornia is $50 billion in the red.  Cuts have to be made.  And the last two elections have proved that Calolfornian's are tired of continued tax increases to fund education.  

So going back to social distancing.  Can you cut the classrooms by 50% or even 75% like businesses are asking.  That means we need 2x to 3x more teachers, because the number of students will not change.  We are talking a huge tax increase, or huge decreases in other areas to accomplish this, in a time when the state deficit already should dictate a contraction of the government.  (not going to happen, but that would be the fiscally responsible thing to do)

So that leaves it to open or not open.  Would the development of the students be severely impacted, if online learning continued.  That's a complicated one.  I think the biggest blow is going to come in the K-6 range.  That's when the social and intellectual building blocks are most important.  The longer you keep them out, the bigger the damage is going to be.  Further up the line in middle and high school range, online learning might make more sense.  

But then you got the other issue.  In the LAUSD, it's announced that 100% have access to computers and internet now.  That sounds great on paper.  They also said real quietly that 15% have never used those computers since the schools closed down.  That's a huge amount.  Then you have other issues like childcare, feeding, teaching all the responsibility of the parents.  Yeah, that's not going to work well.

So I can see why the OC is pushing to open.  We are pretty much in the Kobayashi Maru of education right now.  

 

They aren’t going to hire more teachers. If/when schools go back live it will either be a hybrid model or full blown back to normal.

The  hybrid model that was proposed at the junior high school in Anaheim where my wife teaches was-

Monday- all students distance learning.

Tuesday- 1/3 of the kids in class for 40 minute periods

Wednesday- 1/3 for 40 minute periods.

Thursday- the final 1/3 for 40 minute periods.

Friday- a combination of online/clubs/sports.

Students were required to Social Distance at all times which meant restrooms were not open during passing periods. Students would go during class and there would be an adult monitor outside making sure only the allotted number of kids were in the restroom. The others would stand in line 6’ apart.

Teachers wouldn’t be allowed to use the restrooms during passing periods because they are required to sanitize every desk and public space in their classroom after every class during passing periods.

So the students would see each teacher for a total of 40 minutes a week and the teachers would be in the classroom 3 full days a week and see 240 kids during that time.

[mmc]

 

[Redondo]

President Trump says he holds China accountable for concealing and unleashing COVID-19 on world

Good, glad he came out and said it.

[Redondo]

Texas man accused of taking $1.1M in coronavirus stimulus for companies with no employees

How much money was wasted by sending it to the wrong people?

[mmc]

New cases and deaths by state today:

[mmc]

New cases and deaths today by country:

 

[wopphil]

13 hours ago, calscuf said:

I have lost my sense of smell.

Keep us updated.

[tennischmp]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/trump-administration-coronavirus-hospital-data-cdc/index.html

 

Sounds legit