SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[Jason]

11 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I'm pretty sure the ADA does require you to disclose your """"condition"""" if you can't follow an order like this.

Also, I wear a mask 8 hours a day at work and I'm obese and have a panic disorder. Not sure what condition someone could have that would prevent them from wearing a mask for 20 minutes, other than being Brian.

C**tinitis?

[AngelsLakersFan]

40 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

Yes, people are going around with these, and showing them when told to put on a mask. They are the right's version of an emotional support animal.

[Lhalo]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Yeah I only trust Facebook and Twitter.

Facebook? Do you think I have grandkids or something?

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lhalo said:

Facebook? Do you think I have grandkids or something?

You mean you don't?

[gotbeer]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I'm pretty sure the ADA does require you to disclose your """"condition"""" if you can't follow an order like this.

Also, I wear a mask 8 hours a day at work and I'm obese and have a panic disorder. Not sure what condition someone could have that would prevent them from wearing a mask for 20 minutes, other than being Brian.

I would think any kind of breathing disorder.  COPID, or anything that drops your pulse ox low.  

that's why I shake my head when I see people with masks on on the trail.  It's one thing to put it on when you are approaching people, but there are some that have them on all the time.  Altitude, masks, oxygen deprevation to your organs, is a ticking timebomb waiting to happen.  

[Jason]

5 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

I would think any kind of breathing disorder.  COPID, or anything that drops your pulse ox low.  

that's why I shake my head when I see people with masks on on the trail.  It's one thing to put it on when you are approaching people, but there are some that have them on all the time.  Altitude, masks, oxygen deprevation to your organs, is a ticking timebomb waiting to happen.  

If I’m not in close proximity to other people I do not wear them 

[AngelsLakersFan]

12 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

I would think any kind of breathing disorder.  COPID, or anything that drops your pulse ox low.  

that's why I shake my head when I see people with masks on on the trail.  It's one thing to put it on when you are approaching people, but there are some that have them on all the time.  Altitude, masks, oxygen deprevation to your organs, is a ticking timebomb waiting to happen.  

I just pretend I'm doing high altitude training.

[gotbeer]

Missouri study finds masks likely prevented stylists from passing on coronavirus to 139 clients

[Redondo]

Anyone hungry?

Found this bat at work today. The palm trees on the river is where they live. 

[St1ck]

14 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Who wants a Freedom Boner???

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/15/mask-sign-michigan-shop-warns-masked-customers-armed-employees/5443881002/

I wonder how often a metal cutting shop in Kentwood, MI has been robbed that they feel the need to arm themselves.

[m0nkey]

42 minutes ago, calscuf said:

I personally will refrain from any comments about GB and monkey at this point, and I encourage the rest of you to, as well.

 

Was wondering why dinner was smaller today 

[St1ck]

Gov. Kemp voids local mask ordinances as coronavirus cases surge
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gov-kemp-voids-local-mask-ordinances-as-coronavirus-cases-surge/ar-BB16Nqq7

[Sully151]

6 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

They should be doing something like this. Kids need in the in class experience, and denying them that is a disaster waiting to happen.

On the flip, when a kid comes in with Covid and infects his/her peers or gets the teacher that is in his/her 50’s sick, that would be a disaster too.

Remember how batshit parents would get when they found out a kid from class had lice?

[tdawg87]

One teacher gets it, and how many people does that impact? The entire class? How many do you have to test at that point?

Hell one kid gets it and we're back to square one. 

Unless you are an asshat and believe kids can't transmit the virus. In which case problem solved.

[Lhalo]

4 hours ago, calscuf said:

It’s a fair assumption.  He’s Hispanic and 30.

I actually found out recently I'm only a quarter Mexican. My grandfather was Basque and his parents came to AZ from España. Sorry to disappoint the board.

[Lhalo]

3 hours ago, Redondo said:

Anyone hungry?

Found this bat at work today. The palm trees on the river is where they live. 

Found one of those caught in our garage door rails at the river one time. It's fun watching the bats go after flying bugs out there.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Sully151 said:

On the flip, when a kid comes in with Covid and infects his/her peers or gets the teacher that is in his/her 50’s sick, that would be a disaster too.

Remember how batshit parents would get when they found out a kid from class had lice?

 

55 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

One teacher gets it, and how many people does that impact? The entire class? How many do you have to test at that point?

Hell one kid gets it and we're back to square one. 

Unless you are an asshat and believe kids can't transmit the virus. In which case problem solved.

this the boat I'm in. I'm in the higher risk group because of my age and weight. I can't begin to count how many times in my career I've been sick because little Timmy just HAD to come to school inspire of his 101 temp and raging sore throat. Time after friggin' time, year after year. We've had times where it spreads through the classes like fire through dry brush on a windy day. While we plan to do a temp check when we get back to campus, I fear it's possible for an infected kid to slip through the cracks, and then there could be really trouble.

The conflict in all of this for me is that I realize how much the kids need the human interaction and that it's easier to teach them in person. plus I miss them.

[tennischmp]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

 

this the boat I'm in. I'm in the higher risk group because of my age and weight. I can't begin to count how many times in my career I've been sick because little Timmy just HAD to come to school inspire of his 101 temp and raging sore throat. Time after friggin' time, year after year. We've had times where it spreads through the classes like fire through dry brush on a windy day. While we plan to do a temp check when we get back to campus, I fear it's possible for an infected kid to slip through the cracks, and then there could be really trouble.

The conflict in all of this for me is that I realize how much the kids need the human interaction and that it's easier to teach them in person. plus I miss them.

I mean based on that outlined plan above, a student would get only 40 minutes of class time a week, having to wear a mask, no group projects, sitting 6 feet away from everyone. Is that 40 minutes a week really worth the risk?

[Tank]

1 hour ago, tennischmp said:

I mean based on that outlined plan above, a student would get only 40 minutes of class time a week, having to wear a mask, no group projects, sitting 6 feet away from everyone. Is that 40 minutes a week really worth the risk?

not right now.

I'd like to see the numbers calm down quite a bit before we open up again.

I'm not sure about wearing a mask the whole time. that would be a headache. I'm hopeful I could wear a shield instead.

[Lhalo]

2 hours ago, calscuf said:

Wow, you really are basically white.

There's a huge outbreak among the indians around Parker, AZ right now. Dumbest group of people you could ever meet. It was bound to happen. Fat, unhealthy, all on .gov paychecks...

Nice fire station though. Thanks Blue Water Casino!

[mmc]

New cases and deaths today by country:

 

[mmc]

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[Redondo]

• San Francisco gives drugs, alcohol to homeless addicts in hotels during coronavirus, sparking debate

San Francisco ‘hotels for homeless’ program a ‘disaster’: reporter

Thousands of homeless people have been housed in several of San Francisco’s empty hotels in an effort to slow the spread of coronavirus.

However, City Journal contributor Erica Sandberg told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Wednesday the policy has been an "absolute disaster"

"It's solving exactly nothing and as a matter of fact, it's making all the problems worse," said Sandberg, who described the scene inside the hotels as "about as bad as you can imagine, only exponentially worse."

"You are talking drug-fueled parties, overdoses, deaths, people are being assaulted. You have sexual assaults going on, it is pandemonium," she said. "It is extremely bad and it needs to stop."

City officials reportedly secured close to 5,000 rooms at several city hotels that signed up to house homeless and other members of at-risk populations who need to quarantine or socially distance themselves.

Controversy ensued after a report alleged that the city was providing alcohol, marijuana, and methadone to homeless addicts residing in the hotels.

"The people who are assigned as disaster workers, these people have been librarians," Sandberg told host Brian Kilmeade. "They are just paper pushers, administrators who are reassigned to these hotels and what they are telling me is beyond the pale.

"They are not just horrified, they are traumatized by what they see. You have mattresses that have feces on them, blood, hospital bands on the floor. What people are seeing is so horrible that they walk out and they say, 'I don't want to go back in there.'"

Meanwhile, Sandberg said, city officials are "trying to put this kind of a Band-Aid on it and pretend it's not happening.

"Oh, it's happening," she added, "and it's worse than people imagine."

[Redondo]

Nancy's territory.

Government will fix everything. That's what they are trying to tell us.

[Redondo]

Dr. Siegel exults over promising UK coronavirus vaccine news: 'Hats off to the scientists around the world'

Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Wednesday that new reports indicate a coronavirus vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford is showing a "robust immune response" in trial participants.

"Brian, tonight, people on all sides of the political aisle are cheering. We already had great news from Moderna this week that they are showing a robust immune response against the COVID-19 virus [with their vaccine]," Siegel told guest host Brian Kilmeade.

"Now, Oxford University in England, which the World Health Organization calls the leader in terms of vaccines, may be showing it because, Brian, they're already having the late stage clinical trials all around the world in India, South Africa, United Kingdom, United States, in Brazil, where the hotspots are. Late trials already starting in July."

Siegel went on to say that the British medical journal The Lancet is scheduled to publish early-stage human trial data on the Oxford vaccine next week, and reports indicate that those trials have also shown a robust response.

"This is a brand new kind of vaccine, Brian, which uses something from a chimp, a virus from a chimp, an adenovirus to seed ourselves with the protein that causes this robust immune response."

Nearly two dozen possible vaccines are in various stages of development and testing around the world.

"This is the world leader and we are ready here in the United States to ramp up," Siegel said. "So it's hats off tonight to the Trump administration for Operation Warp Speed, which will take this vaccine and put it together with the manufacturing to make hundreds of millions of doses -- if it works -- available by the end of the year.

"Hats off to the scientists around the world who are coming up with this vaccine. And finally, hats off to our partnership, the special relationship the United States has with the United Kingdom. We won two World Wars together. U.S. and U.K., and now we're teaming up to beat this virus that's threatening the world," Siegel added.

Though the vaccine is being manufactured by a British university and a British-Swedish company, Siegel made clear that the U.S. is "heavily involved in this."

"We will ramp it up and we will be able to produce the doses we need," he said. "Manufacturing will keep pace with the science. This has never been done in human history."