Rangers have acquired Kluber from the Indians

[beatlesrule]

I wouldn't describe In N outs fries as crappy. More like edible.

[CanadianHalo]

 

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

 

So we could have traded Trout for Kluber. Fuck you Eppler.

[Angels_Fan]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

 

Many other teams could’ve sweetened the deal and sent more talent and no team did. 

[beatlesrule]

4 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Soggy pot-A-to, soggy pot-a-to.

Yes but edible. INO is doing just fine with these fries so they couldn't care less.

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Angels_Fan said:

Many other teams could’ve sweetened the deal and sent more talent and no team did. 

I'm guessing any team in baseball could have easily matched that package.

Cleveland knows something.

[Stradling]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

I'm guessing any team in baseball could have easily matched that package.

Cleveland knows something.

They know something or really valued Clase.  

[ukyah]

15 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

I'm wondering if the Angels figured the same thing and backed away.

that's not how it works. if they like the player, and like the price, then they rely on their medical staff to pass/fail their physical.

[mulwin444]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

 

Goodwin is not a legit CFer, his defense is pretty mediocre and doesn't have DeShields' speed so, yeah, not really equivalent.

But you know who is close to the MLB and has shown excellent defense?  Marsh.

If Buttrey is our closest Clase equivalent, would you do a Marsh/Buttrey deal for Kluber?

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

Outfielder Delino DeShields Jr. and right-hander Emmanuel Clase (Rangers' No. 30 ranked prospect, according to MLB Pipeline) will be heading to the Indians in return. 

I'm surprised we couldn't beat that without giving up Adell or Marsh.

[Angels_Fan]

Delino DeShields is a bench player at best who put up horrible offensive numbers in that bandbox.

Yea, Kluber is probably damaged goods.

[Stradling]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Outfielder Delino DeShields Jr. and right-hander Emmanuel Clase (Rangers' No. 30 ranked prospect, according to MLB Pipeline) will be heading to the Indians in return. 

I'm surprised we couldn't beat that without giving up Adell or Marsh.

We could have.  We probably did.  It’s still up to the Indians to say yes or to value the return.  

[ukyah]

6 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

 

 

dang, we let go of borjous one year too early.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Throwman91 said:

Well, looks like 2020 we're going through the motions, not enough available pitching to get us into real contention?

[Angel Oracle]

I wonder if Callaway knows something that caused them to back off.

He would know Kluber as well as anyone.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Outfielder Delino DeShields Jr. and right-hander Emmanuel Clase (Rangers' No. 30 ranked prospect, according to MLB Pipeline) will be heading to the Indians in return. 

I'm surprised we couldn't beat that without giving up Adell or Marsh.

we probably would have had to give up Marsh.

or Trout 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

11 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

 

Goodwin was MLB ready...

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

I wonder if Callaway knows something that caused them to back off.

He would know Kluber as well as anyone.

if that were the case, I doubt we would have been interested at all

[mulwin444]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Goodwin was MLB ready...

DeShields is a better CF...Goodwin plays "Outfield"

[Turd Ferguson]

Seems super light. I wonder if his health is a bigger concern then we think.

[UndertheHalo]

40 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Well that sucks. I would've gladly traded Goodwin and Buttrey for Kluber. 

Just fucking crazy.  I’m sorry. 

[Duren, Duren]

Sometimes the best deals are the one's you don't make.

People are reacting reflexively to losing Cole, wanting immediate consolation by quickly acquiring someone else.

Kluber is no Cole. Not even close. 

If he could have been acquired for little loss, fine. But better to keep our top prospects and move on to a new scenario. Cleveland has their own mindset and plan. The Angels just weren't their best option for their own needs. An an already MLB tested pitcher throwing 100 plus is mighty tempting. 

Will Kluber be better than Baumgarner, Ryu, Price, Stroman or any other potential pitchers available in trades or still unsigned? Given his age and health history, a very short term window at most for him. And still a risk.

Eppler has to be pragmatic and move on to other options. Still about a dozen pitchers better, equal or close to Kluber out there. 

 

[beatlesrule]

12 minutes ago, Throwman91 said:

Well, looks like 2020 we're going through the motions, not enough available pitching to get us into real contention?

It's December 15th. Dec 15th.

[mulwin444]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Just fucking crazy.  I’m sorry. 

DeShields/Clase is not Goodwin/Buttrey

[UndertheHalo]

Some of you guys apparently have zero apprehension about taking on almost 20 million dollars a year for this season and next for a 34 year old pitcher that had a bad injury and made 7 starts looking like shit last year.  
 

I know the Angels have a had an amazing track record with these types.  So it make sense that we should trade actual healthy major league players that we currently have who are pretty good without thinking twice.