Rangers have acquired Kluber from the Indians

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Throwman91 said:

I remember Verlander was treated similarly, any team would've traded for him in hindsight.  The fact that the stinky Rangers got him makes it worse.

Oh christ.  Verlander didn’t have all the injuries.  That’s the problem here.  Not the same at all. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

11 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

DeShields is a better CF...Goodwin plays "Outfield"

Goodwin had a better season than DeSheilds, offensively at least. 74 OPS+ to 109 OPS+,

Oh well

[mmc]

 

[mulwin444]

7 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Oh christ.  Verlander didn’t have all the injuries.  That’s the problem here.  Not the same at all. 

Yep, besides a slight hiccup in 2015, the guy has been a horse. His age and remaining contract were really the only concerns 

Edited December 15, 2019 by mulwin444

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

which is probably the case in 100% of trades 

Stop making sense. 

[UndertheHalo]

Dodgers fans earnestly believe they’re  getting Lindor and Clevinger and that it’ll be a 3 or 4 team trade that involves them giving up like 1 prospect and Pederson and Kikè.  I am not kidding.  A bunch of them believe this. 

Edited December 15, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[mulwin444]

4 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Goodwin had a better season than DeSheilds, offensively at least. 74 OPS+ to 109 OPS+,

Oh well

DeShields lifetime 5.4 WAR, has speed and can play a solid CF

Goodwin lifetime 2.3 WAR (2.1 of it last season), has average speed, and plays "outfield"

Edited December 15, 2019 by mulwin444

[Roy Hobbs]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Oh christ.  Verlander didn’t have all the injuries.  That’s the problem here.  Not the same at all. 

You keep saying all these injuries,the fact is he had a fractured arm and then a strained oblique last year.The previous 5 seasons he averaged 217 innings and a 2.84 ERA, with 2 Cy Young awards.

[Lou]

DeShields is a crappy hitter.

very crappy 

[Pancake Bear]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Dodgers fans earnestly believe they’re  getting Lindor and Clevinger and that it’ll be w 3 or 4 team trade that involves them giving up like 1 prospect and Pederson and Kikè.  I am not kidding.  A bunch of them believe this. 

I saw people insisting the Angels would have to give up Adell or Marsh for Kluber but the Dodgers think they can get Clevinger and Lindor for meh. Priceless. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said:

You keep saying all these injuries,the fact is he had a fractured arm and then a strained oblique last year.The previous 5 seasons he averaged 217 innings and a 2.84 ERA, with 2 Cy Young awards.

I agree, but when those injuries occur in the most recent season, it matters.

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Throwman91 said:

Rangers > Angels in 2020

your act is so old 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

44 minutes ago, Throwman91 said:

A pitcher who has 2 Cy Youngs shouldn't be discarded so easily, remember Verlander?

Verlander is an outlier. 

[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

You keep saying all these injuries,the fact is he had a fractured arm and then a strained oblique last year.The previous 5 seasons he averaged 217 innings and a 2.84 ERA, with 2 Cy Young awards.

A fractured forearm is a serious injury for a pitcher.  Jesus.  The evidence is literally in what they got for him.  You guys think you know better then literal front office baseball people.  
 

I would have been able to accept giving up Rengifo because I know that the Angels really need pitchers.  Not because I think that’s a reasonable trade for the Angels.  It’s not.  But we have depth there and fuck it roll the dice.  Even that would have been a stupid trade and I’m glad we didn’t do it.  But again, if we did fine. 
 

the angels have to get more from their internal guys.  No matter what that had to happen.  If we’re going to get completely ass f*ucked in trades right now then I don’t want to them.  Why should we.  Pay for Keuchel or whoever. Keep our players *unless* we get what we want.  And see what it looks like at the deadline.  And if we get what we need anyway from our guys.  Then we’ll be in a much stronger position leverage wise.  And guess what, we’ll also probably be doing pretty well in the standings.  That’s the way to deal with this. 

Edited December 15, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

I love it when people reference the Cy young awards.  Yes.  Over the course of the last decade Kluber has been a great pitcher.  You got me. 

Edited December 15, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

I love it when people reference the Cy young awards.  Yes.  Over the course of the last decade Kluber has been a great pitcher.  You got me. 

Well, I mean he was literally a Cy Young candidate in 2018.

[Pancake Bear]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I love it when people reference the Cy young awards.  Yes.  Over the course of the last decade Kluber has been a great pitcher.  You got me. 

The Bumgarner argument. He must be great because look what he did in the playoffs five years ago. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

14 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

DeShields lifetime 5.4 WAR, has speed and can play a solid CF

Goodwin lifetime 2.3 WAR (2.1 of it last season), has average speed, and plays "outfield"

still seems like a steal for Texas

[Stradling]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

still seems like a steal for Texas

If he is healthy and I will assume he is then it is a steal for Texas.  

[Pancake Bear]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

still seems like a steal for Texas

I don’t think Deshields was the deciding factor. Clearly they really like Clase. 

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Well, I mean he was literally a Cy Young candidate in 2018.

I refuse to be upset about this.  I’m more asshurt about Cole. 

Edited December 15, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

The Bumgarner argument. He must be great because look what he did in the playoffs five years ago. 

Again, Kluber finished 3rd in Cy Young voting last year. 

[mulwin444]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

still seems like a steal for Texas

Perhaps, won't know until next year.  Also, we don't know what Cleveland asked from the Angels.

[eligrba]

18 minutes ago, Throwman91 said:

Rangers > Angels in 2020

Lame.

[tdawg87]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

I refuse to be upset about this.  I’m more asshurt about Cole. 

I'm not upset because I assume Cleveland wanted way more from the Angels. I'm frustrated, but there's plenty of options available.