Path to the Wild Card

[Lou]

No team is going to trade for Greinke without Arizona eating a bunch of money.

[Stradling]

15 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Woah woah woah....62.5 million in deferred payments? Never mind, I changed my mind. Not unless Arizona covers the deferred payments and the trade assignment bonus. 

It’s about $105 million total plus the remainder of this season.  

[34red4]

27 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Woah woah woah....62.5 million in deferred payments? Never mind, I changed my mind. Not unless Arizona covers the deferred payments and the trade assignment bonus. 

The deferred is $12.5M per year. If I’m understand things correctly, since his base salaries are $31.5M in 2019, $32M in 2020 and 2021, a trade occurring today with no money exchanged would leave the Angels having to pay $2M trade bonus plus $8.5M for the rest of 2019, $19.5M in 2020 and 2021, and deferred $31.25M over the years 2022-2026.

[Hubs]

1 hour ago, Jinzu said:

The deferred is $12.5M per year. If I’m understand things correctly, since his base salaries are $31.5M in 2019, $32M in 2020 and 2021, a trade occurring today with no money exchanged would leave the Angels having to pay $2M trade bonus plus $8.5M for the rest of 2019, $19.5M in 2020 and 2021, and deferred $31.25M over the years 2022-2026.

This is almost correct, the deferred money is I think 10.5M in 19, and 11M in 20 and 21. The Angels would be on the hook for around $80M (16 for 1/2 of 19, plus 64 for 20-21) with $27 (5.25-11-11)of that deferred. 

I’d imagine they ask for the D’backs to accept lower level or lower ceiling prospects instead of the upper tier guys if they eat all the money. 

 

[Hubs]

Also Bungarner can likely be had for less, maybe a pitcher like Suarez and a bat. He’s a FA next year

[arch stanton]

On pace for a 81 win second half. Just win tomorrow and keep that alive 

[tennischmp]

6 hours ago, Hubs said:

Technically the 2nd WC team DID have 97 wins, but the third place WC team finished with 90. So it would've only taken 91.

3rd wild card teams don't make the playoffs

[Lou]

Just now, tennischmp said:

3rd wild card teams don't make the playoffs

You missed his point

[tennischmp]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

You missed his point

What is that point?

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

What is that point?

That although the 2nd WC team did have 97 wins, only 91 were actually required to secure the final playoff spot. 

[tennischmp]

25 minutes ago, Lou said:

That although the 2nd WC team did have 97 wins, only 91 were actually required to secure the final playoff spot. 

I don't think that was the point. He said "the third place WC team finished with 90" which is accurate, that was the Rays but they didn't make the playoffs.

[Lou]

1 hour ago, tennischmp said:

I don't think that was the point. He said "the third place WC team finished with 90" which is accurate, that was the Rays but they didn't make the playoffs.

So if the 3rd place WC team had 90 wins, what would have been the fewest amount of wins required for a team to claim the 2nd WC spot? 

Answer: 1 more than the 3rd place team. 

[Slegnaac]

50 minutes ago, Lou said:

So if the 3rd place WC team had 90 wins, what would have been the fewest amount of wins required for a team to claim the 2nd WC spot? 

Answer: 1 more than the 3rd place team. 

Science!

[arch stanton]

Umm, we were told there would be no math

[Hubs]

10 hours ago, tennischmp said:

I don't think that was the point. He said "the third place WC team finished with 90" which is accurate, that was the Rays but they didn't make the playoffs.

Wrong... that was my point. A's team could've won 91, and still been the 2nd WC. Thanks @Lou

[Stradling]

Assuming of course the team that finished with 90 wins did everything in their power to wins games until the last game of the season.  My guess is they didn’t since they finished 7 games behind the winner so they were mathematically eliminated with a week left in the season. 

[floplag]

15 hours ago, Second Base said:

Woah woah woah....62.5 million in deferred payments? Never mind, I changed my mind. Not unless Arizona covers the deferred payments and the trade assignment bonus. 

I really have no interest whatsoever in Greinke part deux.  I would prefer someone who actually wanted to be here. 

[Lou]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

Assuming of course the team that finished with 90 wins did everything in their power to wins games until the last game of the season.  My guess is they didn’t since they finished 7 games behind the winner so they were mathematically eliminated with a week left in the season. 

They won their last 2 games, so I don't think they gave up on winning

[tennischmp]

13 hours ago, Lou said:

So if the 3rd place WC team had 90 wins, what would have been the fewest amount of wins required for a team to claim the 2nd WC spot? 

Answer: 1 more than the 3rd place team. 

 

4 hours ago, Hubs said:

Wrong... that was my point. A's team could've won 91, and still been the 2nd WC. Thanks @Lou

 

OK but the A's did win 97 games so in order to make the playoffs last year as the wild card the Angels would have needed 97+ wins

[Chris]

Will we get a trophy if we finish 3rd in the Wild Card race this year?

[Troll Daddy]

The path is simple ... just no guarantees 

 

[Pancake Bear]

7 hours ago, floplag said:

I really have no interest whatsoever in Greinke part deux.  I would prefer someone who actually wanted to be here. 

Glad you prefer to have a losing team. Good call there.

Greinke doesn’t care where he plays, his primary focus is where he gets paid. That said, I doubt we could make the money work. 

[fan_since79]

15 hours ago, Chris said:

Will we get a trophy if we finish 3rd in the Wild Card race this year?

MLB needs to have four or five wild cards so we get more of a fair chance.

The game needs Trout and Ohtani in the postseason, any way that it can be done.

[PattyD22]

36 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

 

The game needs Trout and Ohtani in the postseason, any way that it can be done.

Well we can start by winning more games.

Oh, and pitching.  Winning starts with better pitching.

[Jay]

Just a bump in the road... we're back on track tomorrow!