Fire Doug White

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

Then that's the pitcher's fault 

I agree -- it's always a mistake to trust the wrong person.  See Arte and Jerry Dipoto.

[failos]

Would you fire Beethoven if his hypothetical students didn't become brilliant pianists over night? You either have it or you don't, the coach isn't going to change that.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, failos said:

Would you fire Beethoven if his hypothetical students didn't become brilliant pianists over night? You either have it or you don't, the coach isn't going to change that.

Beethoven was a shit piano teacher.

[failos]

1 minute ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Beethoven was a shit piano teacher.

FIRE BEETHOVEN

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, failos said:

Would you fire Beethoven if his hypothetical students didn't become brilliant pianists over night? You either have it or you don't, the coach isn't going to change that.

Depends -- is Mozart available?

[failos]

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

Depends -- is Mozart available?

Who needs Mozart when you have Cozart?

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, failos said:

Who needs Mozart when you have Cozart?

You win!

[ten ocho recon scout]

18 minutes ago, failos said:

Would you fire Beethoven if his hypothetical students didn't become brilliant pianists over night? You either have it or you don't, the coach isn't going to change that.

The difference is that doug white knows his students suck. Beethoven woupdnt have. Or couldnt have.

[T.G.]

I miss Bud Black.

Black > White 

[mmc]

If Cody Allen turns out well for the Twins he needs to go

[Stradling]

16 hours ago, True Grich said:

I miss Bud Black.

Black > White 

@tdawg87 agrees as does pettis 

[T.G.]

The Angels need to keep going through the color spectrum to find the right pitching coach.

Is Vida Blue available?

Kevin Brown?

 

[Tank]

9 minutes ago, True Grich said:

The Angels need to keep going through the color spectrum to find the right pitching coach.

Is Vida Blue available?

Kevin Brown?

 

Todd Greene.

[Lou]

Devon White

[Lou]

Shohei Ohtani

[zenmaster]

I still think a lot of this has to be on him. He's just not cutting it.

[Angel Oracle]

On 6/22/2019 at 10:35 AM, UndertheHalo said:

No point.  The Mets already got the best guy out there. 

Even though Phil Regan may have been there when the Babe called his shot?  

Props though to him for embracing technology, even being in his early 80s.

[Angel Oracle]

Not impressed yet, but it bears mentioning that Bud’ Black’s first two staffs were forgettable too.

Then year three changed all of that, and then some, nearly beating out the A’th for best AL team ERA.

[floplag]

Guys im pretty sure Doug White didnt tell anyone to throw gopher balls and set a quota for 2-3 home runs allowed every damned night. 
Blaming him is like blaming the high school coach for not beating the Red Sox in an exhibition game.  
You give someone reclamation projects to work with dont be shocked when they dont all work. 
something parts are on the scrap heap or readily available for a reason. and not everything can be fixed. 

[stormngt]

On 6/22/2019 at 9:11 AM, zenmaster said:

We have one of the worst team ERAs in baseball. Why isn’t this board calling for his head yet? I realize he wasn’t given the best hand but very few of our pitchers are having an average year or better. 

Last few years our pitching sucked because of injuries and we have no depth.

This year we do not have those devastating injuries.  

[UndertheHalo]

Seems to me the main problem is pitchers who are pitching like shit.  Sure, I guess it’s disappointing that Doug White isn’t a magician. 

[Docwaukee]

4 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Seems to me the main problem is pitchers who are pitching like shit.  Sure, I guess it’s disappointing that Doug White isn’t a magician. 

what they're throwing and the way they're mixed is different than previous years.  yet the one thing they all have in common is that they're worse than they were a year ago.  

[Tank]

Really, is there any difference between Harvey, Cahill, and Joe Blanton?

Want better results? Sign better players.

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Tank said:

Really, is there any difference between Harvey, Cahill, and Joe Blanton?

Want better results? Sign better players.

To be fair, Blanton went on to be better then dog shit once he left the Angels.  Which is natural. 

[UndertheHalo]

13 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

what they're throwing and the way they're mixed is different than previous years.  yet the one thing they all have in common is that they're worse than they were a year ago.  

I don’t know man.  If it was that obvious wouldn’t it be kind of easy to roll back and get improved results ? Skaggs was great for the 1st half last year and then he was like this (I get he had the injury) .  Heaney gave us innings last year.  He was fine but I don’t  think you could describe him as much more then a mid rotation starter at best.   Which seem like a similar deal this year. 

What I find interesting is that outside of that 1st start this season Barria has been solid in really limited use this year.  They don’t seem to be very interested in giving him a slot in the rotation.  It was ugly at  salt lake.  But still.  Arguably their best guy in the rotation last year. 

I don’t have any answers here.  What seems abundantly clear is that the talent in the rotation isn’t good enough to support a playoff team.  Just gotta keep hoping Heaney and Skaggs live up to expectations at some point. 

Edited July 1, 2019 by UndertheHalo