The extended Kole Calhoun experiment

[Chuck]

Let's face it, since the middle of 2017 he has pretty much sucked outside of a little hot streak. 

I mean I know we don't have any other options right now, but how many months of absolute zero production can we continue on with? To make it worse,  he's leading off and getting 5 at bats a game.

 

[Claude]

Yep Koles career has kinda flatlined at age 31. 

Angels outfielder Torii Hunter even at age 36 was much better. 

Edited April 18, 2019 by Calzone 2

[Angelsjunky]

Kole is (was) a classic overrated-because-he-was-underrated player. He was a fringe prospect who turned in a nice few years, but was really never anything more than a solid major league regular, and then only for 2014-16. By 2017 he was slipping below the average range and has been mediocre to bad since. He shouldn't be a starter anymore.

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, Calzone 2 said:

Yep Koles career has kinda flatlined at age 31. 

Angels outfielder Torii Hunter even at age 36 was much better. 

Such a bummer because I like the guy and he's really good in RF, plays hard. But damn, rightfielders are suppose to produce at the plate.

[Claude]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

Such a bummer because I like the guy and he's really good in RF, plays hard. But damn, rightfielders are suppose to produce at the plate.

Yep and I remember meeting him at the Angelswin spring fanfest. Good guy. He was a gritty overachiever that made it to the bigs. 

[beatlesrule]

10 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Such a bummer because I like the guy and he's really good in RF, plays hard. But damn, rightfielders are suppose to produce at the plate.

His lack of bat wouldn't be as much of an issue if his other teammates could hit.

[Vlad27Trout27]

Just go and get Span or trade for someone at the point, he's one of my favorite player but he's had enough chances. 

[Glen]

We have way too many people - Calhoun, Cozart, Pujols - who will continue to get ABs because their contracts prevented us from getting a decent replacement. I get that this is a transition year but fuck, this team is no fun to watch right now. Getting Ohtani back will help but watching him fight with Pujols and Bour for ABs will suck.

Having said all that, 5-game win streak incoming.

[Glen]

And for fuck's sake, get him out of the leadoff spot.

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, beatlesrule said:

His lack of bat wouldn't be as much of an issue if his other teammates could hit.

The problem is that we're saying that for everyone but Trout.

[Glen]

1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

The problem is that we're saying that for everyone but Trout.

You can throw a dart at the Angels' lineup and chances are good you'll hit somebody who sucks.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Glen said:

You can throw a dart at the Angels' lineup and chances are good you'll hit somebody who sucks.

not if Cam throws it 

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

The problem is that we're saying that for everyone but Trout.

Just a bunch of gibberish
And Angelsjunky acts like he forgot about Dre Goodwin. 

[Glen]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

not if Cam throws it 

 

[Do0mT3cH]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

not if Cam throws it 

[Angel Oracle]

6 hours ago, Lou said:

Just a bunch of gibberish
And Angelsjunky acts like he forgot about Dre Goodwin. 

It’s too bad that Goodwin’s defense isn’t very good.

[Glen]

Maybe we'll move on to the Alan Parson's project.

[Jeff Fletcher]

Read the story I wrote yesterday about him. His contact numbers are much better. 

[DMVol]

34 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Read the story I wrote yesterday about him. His contact numbers are much better. 

[Glen]

36 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Read the story I wrote yesterday about him. His contact numbers are much better. 

I know you have the outsider's perspective and that every team has their Kole Calhoun (and Cam Bedrosian, and Zack Cozart, and so on) but damn, as a fan it's tiring reading about the different ways in which player X is "unlucky" and due to turn it around any day now.  

And yes, I read the story.  

[Stradling]

Are his 19 strike outs bad luck?

[angelsnationtalk]

I just wish his numbers get higher so teams would be calling on him come deadline time.

[angelsnationtalk]

2 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Read the story I wrote yesterday about him. His contact numbers are much better. 

But he still leads the team in strikeouts.

[floplag]

I find myself torn, has he gotten worse or have the changes in the game around him such as constant defensive shifts minimized him somewhat?|
It doesnt really matter as the result is the same i guess, some players are just going to have their weaknesses exposed more dramatically than other in the new paradigm. 
Either way, it cant really be accepted if/when a better option emerges, whether thats Goodwin for the rest of 19 once Upton comes back or Adell to open 20. 
At this point if things stay as they are i think he has to be the odd man out when Upton comes back or perhaps moved to the 4th role and Borjous spends time in SLC again. 

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Are his 19 strike outs bad luck?

he's at 26.8% and league avg is 23.3%