The extended Kole Calhoun experiment

[floplag]

14 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

There were better options available in the offseason. We let Brantley go to the Facking team we are trying to get better than.  This is the Pujols situation all over again: Where the team actively doesn't pursue upgrades and then people on here cover their ears and say "We have no better options!". Rinse, wash, repeat. 

 

Eppler needs to have better foresight in the future and actually address issues the roster has. What he did with our problems that we had at 3B, RF, Catcher, 2B is just frankly unacceptable. When Tommy La Stella is the best of the players you brought in to fill holes, that's a shit job

We should have been actively pursuing an upgrade on Calhoun all offseason

There was no budget available in the off season.  At least thats what we are being told.  
I suggested Brntly at one point myself, but it was obvious that was never going to happen.
If there was more money it should have gone to spots we dont have farm depth on anyway such as 3B, but there wasnt. 
This is a transition year to get to the kids in 20, the sooner you accept that the happier you will be  

[Lou]

11 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

For now, maybe. But we all know that Goodwin's numbers will come down and Fletcher has limited upside. Kole sucks, but Upton's injury and the lack of clearly better options gives him some job security.

they may come down, but they won't be under a .170 BA 

also, "for now" is what we desperately need 

[Lou]

14 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Not to nitpick (ok, to nitpick), an average starter is more like 3 WAR. I actually recently researched this, and over the last ten years, the median fWAR for all qualifiers (501+ PA) is 2.7 fWAR; the median for all players with 600+ PA is 3.3 fWAR.

so he's even worse.

wonderful 

[Mark PT]

Calhoun is done, period. He has one and only one contact point when up at the plate and that is way out in front. He can only pull the ball. Should have seen this 2 years ago when they may have been able to acquire some assets for him. Now, no one will trade for this guy. Absolutely worthless. 

[Docwaukee]

33 minutes ago, Lou said:

better OF option:

LF - Fletcher 

CF - Trout

RF - Goodwin 

I'd rather replace Cozart over Calhoun at this point.  Put Fletcher at 3b and Goodwin in LF.  and that's kind of my point.  It's the old pujols argument that there are other guys who suck worse that I would prioritize to replace.  

One thing I hope they start to notice is that Fletcher's developing into a reverse split guy.  

If I had to rank the guys who I would sit 

Bourjos
Cozart
Calhoun
Pujols
La Stella
Bour
 

[Lou]

that's a completely different topic 

[Docwaukee]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

that's a completely different topic 

what is?  Discussing whether Calhoun should continue to get playing time?  I would think that the other players you have available would help determine that.  

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

better OF option:

LF - Fletcher 

CF - Trout

RF - Goodwin 

Hasn't Goodwin been Badwin defensively so far?   He's performed more like a DH so far.

[Angel Oracle]

How much longer is the Bourjos experiment going on for?   Dude hasn't hit MLB pitching for a few years now. 

[Stradling]

I missed the article saying Brantley wanted to play for the Angels instead of the Astros for one year instead of the 3 he is getting in Houston.  

[GrittyVeterans]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

I missed the article saying Brantley wanted to play for the Angels instead of the Astros for one year instead of the 3 he is getting in Houston.  

Would have taken him for 3. Brantley-Trout-Adell.

 

Marsh is no guarantee at all

[Glen]

This thread is working.

[Docwaukee]

11 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Would have taken him for 3. Brantley-Trout-Adell.

 

Marsh is no guarantee at all

I like when people bring up possibilities that were completely unrealistic.  

[GrittyVeterans]

4 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

I like when people bring up possibilities that were completely unrealistic.  

It's only unrealistic cuz we needed Harvey

[Docwaukee]

11 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

It's only unrealistic cuz we needed Harvey

we certainly needed a starter.  

we still do.  

btw, Goodwin and Brantley have the same WAR and only because Goodwin has fewer at bats.  Otherwise, he's out performing him. 

[Do0mT3cH]

27 minutes ago, Glen said:

This thread is working.

Maybe if we keep talking shit he'll actually do better. 

[Stradling]

5 hours ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Would have taken him for 3. Brantley-Trout-Adell.

 

Marsh is no guarantee at all

Upton 

[Jeff Fletcher]

21 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Yeah. That’s not good. 

I don’t think I or the Angels expect him to be some All-Star and hit .300.

I think what is reasonable to expect from him is about a 240/320/430 type line. If he does that and plays great defense, he would help the Angels. 

And I think he’s still capable of that. Given the small sample of ABs, it doesn’t take too long to get from where he is now to there. He’s at the point where 5 hits raises his average 75 points or something. 

Andrelton Simmons had back to back 2-hit games and I think his average went up about 40 points. 

Just to illustrate how it’s too early to get caught up in stats...

Calhoun’s average went up 40 points in 4 games and his OPS went up 155 points. 

Just don’t even look at the stats until May. And especially don’t look at the batting average. 

 

 

[Lou]

sweet. now Kole's batting 7 points higher than Bour. 

[Angel Oracle]

9 hours ago, Dochalo said:

we certainly needed a starter.  

we still do.  

btw, Goodwin and Brantley have the same WAR and only because Goodwin has fewer at bats.  Otherwise, he's out performing him. 

True, except defensively Brantley >>>>>> Goodwin.     But, I'm fine with not offering 3 years to Brantley.  

[UndertheHalo]

The jury is still out on Goodwin.  He’s a young player and was decently regarded prospect.  He’s been reasonably solid in the major leagues for his 3rd season now.  Other teams dig up good regulars.  Maybe the Angels finally have.  You guys better hope Goodwin remains a good player.  Having guys like him pan out is the only way the Angels are going to start winning any time soon.  

[Docwaukee]

Kole vs. RHers for the season

.240/.321/.480/.801 with a 115 ops+

Ward hits lefties well and has a strong arm.  Start playing him in RF.  

[Angelsjunky]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

Kole vs. RHers for the season

.240/.321/.480/.801 with a 115 ops+

Ward hits lefties well and has a strong arm.  Start playing him in RF.  

I like this. 

[Glen]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

Kole vs. RHers for the season

.240/.321/.480/.801 with a 115 ops+

Ward hits lefties well and has a strong arm.  Start playing him in RF.  

 

8 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I like this. 

With all the moving around Ward is doing, maybe we should try him at catcher.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I know.

[Docwaukee]

9 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I like this. 

he also runs well and I think he could manage to pick up a corner OF spot decently enough.