2020 Democratic Field

[JarsOfClay]

It's futile Bernie, the DNC was never gonna let you win.

[Spirit]

 

[tdawg87]

[Spirit]

You could replace The DNC with Cable News Networks and it would still work.

 

 

[St1ck]

AP News: AP source: Bloomberg to reassess after disappointing results
AP source: Bloomberg to reassess after disappointing results

https://apnews.com/4b7a6e2de46b8d9594a55833f8061094

[AngelsFaninGA]

Biden is a truly awful candidate and I'll have to find reasons to vote for Trump if he actually gets the nomination. Hell even Trump doesn't actively antagonize younger voters. 

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Biden is a truly awful candidate and I'll have to find reasons to vote for Trump if he actually gets the nomination. Hell even Trump doesn't actively antagonize younger voters. 

No he just actively antagonizes 50% of the country like an orange Claude.

[St1ck]

[AngelsFaninGA]

6 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

No he just actively antagonizes 50% of the country like an orange Claude.

Yeah I'm gonna pass on the whole "lesser of two evils" nonsense. This is precisely how the Dems keep pushing out progressively worse candidates and forcing us to hold our nose and keep voting for them. Hillary was bad enough and now we get this senile boomer. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, JarsOfClay said:

If you guys are wondering how Biden can go from barely viable to winning almost every single state, it's because there is massive voter suppression going on right now. Hundreds of polling places closed early, machines not working and forcing people to wait in line for a long time.

This is clearly rigged again.

I thought black people were voting for Biden? ...Damn this really is a blow out.

[AngelsLakersFan]

3 hours ago, JarsOfClay said:

I wont vote for Biden at all unless his VP is a progressive. I might actually vote for Trump as a protest to this stupid centrist crap that they keep shoving down our throats and keep losing elections with.

Democrats can't win because half of them prefer a republican to 'the other guy'

[angelinkc]

5 hours ago, Taylor said:

Remember when cons called Obama a socialist? Good times.

Obama is a socialist. He was just smart or evil enough to run as a centrist. Those of us who followed know he is every bit as radical as Sanders. Kinda like if you like your doctor you can keep him or obamacare is a fine not a tax. He knew all along both were not true but the ends always justifies the means to the left. 

[UndertheHalo]

Congrats to Liz Warren and the fucking babies that voted for her. 

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, angelinkc said:

Obama is a socialist. He was just smart or evil enough to run as a centrist. Those of us who followed know he is every bit as radical as Sanders. Kinda like if you like your doctor you can keep him or obamacare is a fine not a tax. He knew all along both were not true but the ends always justifies the means to the left. 

Objectively completely wrong.  Nice work 

[UndertheHalo]

Obama ran as a progressive and governed as an extreme centrist.  Trying to play nice with the GOP until the very end.  A brilliant and effective strategy that absolutely worked.  Looks like that remains the plan. 

[Adam]

It’s easy to get along with the GOP. Obama kept the war lords happy. That’s all it takes

[angelinkc]

50 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Obama ran as a progressive and governed as an extreme centrist.  Trying to play nice with the GOP until the very end.  A brilliant and effective strategy that absolutely worked.  Looks like that remains the plan. 

Progressive is a socialist. I know they like to deny that but the reality is there is no difference. Obama originally ran much more center left than far left. His base and people who pay attention new he was extreme but the average nonpolitical voter was fooled. If you remember Obama was "evolving on marriage etc.”. I can see how we differ on opinion. As a conservative, I see obabamcare, gay marriage, and a million executive orders as extreme. Progressives view Obamacare as a failed attempt to achieve single payer. If you read Obama’s books and pre presidential conversation’s there is no doubt he is a socialist and supports a lot of Sanders platform. I think the conflict in the democrat party is how fast we get to socialism. The Sanders crowd has taken off their socialist mask and the powers at be prefer to nudge the country in that direction. It is also pretty common in other countries for the far left to split. 

 

While we disagree on how Obama ran and achieved his plans there is no disputing Obama's effectiveness as a politician. Bernie's fatal flaw is way to open with his love for socialism

[UndertheHalo]

I don’t understand what this guy is talking about.  I said he ran as a progressive.  He did not govern that way. 
 

and I don’t really give a shit what far right wingers define as “socialism” I’m sure the feeling is mutual.  So fair enough. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[angelinkc]

I understand the young progressives / socialist being upset. The  cheating and corruption is widespread in the party primaries. The Republicans have tried similar tactics but have not quite stooped to the dems level. Hopefully, you can now see the gross levels of corruption drove that Americans to Trump. How can we trust a part to run the country who won't allow a transparent process in their own primaries?  Its mind boggling the left can see all this political corruption on both sides and continue to beg for the government take over of everything. Until Jesus returns you will never have a benevolent all powerful king so stop giving power to all these assholes. 

 

[St1ck]

14 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

Progressive is a socialist. I know they like to deny that but the reality is there is no difference. Obama originally ran much more center left than far left. His base and people who pay attention new he was extreme but the average non political voter was fooled. If you remember Obama was "evolving on marriage etc" . I can see how we differ on opinion. As a conservative, I see obabamcare, gay marriage, and a million executive orders as extreme. Progressives view obamacare as a failed attempt to achieve single payer. If you read obama's books and pre presidential conversation.s there is no doubt he is a socialist and supports a lot of Sanders platform. I think the conflict in the democrat party is how fast do we get to socialism. The Sanders crowd has taken off their socialist mask and the powers at be prefer to nudge the country in that direction. It is also pretty common in other countries for the far left to split. 

 

While we disagree on how Obama ran and achieved his plans there is no disputing Obama's effectiveness as a politician. Bernie's fatal flaw is way to open with his love for socialism. 

By "a million executive orders" did you mean 277?

Obama averaged fewest executive orders since Cleveland | Pew Research Center
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/

 

Also, you are in desperate need of a good copy editor.

[UndertheHalo]

Liz Warren cost Sanders Minnesota and Massachusetts.  He‘ll get his share of the delegates but it’s a horrible result.  It was completely predictable that she was going to get her ass kicked.  Some might not like it but whether it’s narcissism or scheming with the DNC the result is what it is.  She is an enemy.  I’ll give money to whoever primaries her from the left.  This should be the beginning of the end her political career.  Of course, being who she is, she might transform back into a republican.  Or try to at least. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[angelinkc]

6 minutes ago, st1ckboy said:

By "a million executive orders" did you mean 277?

Obama averaged fewest executive orders since Cleveland | Pew Research Center
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/

 

Also, you are in desperate need of a good copy editor.

Well, I don't do much typing anymore. I should have expected stickalinsky to go all rules for radicals on me. Of course he didn't sign a million but he did attempt amnesty through the process.

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

Well, I don't do much typing anymore. I should have expected stickalinsky to go all rules for radicals on me. Of course he didn't sign a million but he did attempt amnesty through the process.

EO are just the way that governing will happen going forward dude.  Both sides.  The Congress is completely broken. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[angelinkc]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

EO are just the way that governing will happen going forward dude.  Both sides.  The Congress is completely broken. 

You are right and both parties are guilty. Just wish our people could come together and understand this isn't a good thing.

[Jay]

Hillary Clinton says Bernie Sanders didn’t get a real job until he was 41—here’s a copy of his actual resume from the ’80s

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/photos-bernie-sanders-resume-as-mayor-of-burlington-vermont.html

″[Sanders] was a career politician. He didn’t work until he was 41 and then he got elected to something. It was all just baloney, and I feel bad that people got sucked into it,” Clinton says in the four-part Hulu docuseries about the 2016 presidential race.