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10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

But the media is almost 100% against Bernie Sanders. So it seems like they're working in tandem.

Exactly. 15 years ago. Hell 10 years ago the media would be enough to prevent a Bernie. It isn't anymore. God Bless technology. For every gateway pundit there's 3 podcasts out there that actually illuminate reality. 

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49 minutes ago, Tank said:

give it back? it was my money in the first place.

The money that you were forced to pay is long gone. It will be my money, forcibly taken as well, that will support you. 

I'm obviously not serious Tank, just pointing out how social security is such a scheme and very socialistic in nature.

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1 hour ago, Kevin said:

I'm obviously not serious Tank, just pointing out how social security is such a scheme and very socialistic in nature.

As far as it's structured in the US, absolutely.  In some other countries they pay into a system and the funds are actually set aside for them or their family in an account they get statements on.  Those countries have the advantage of setting up their schemes after the US and they probably saw what not to do in some ways.  Personally I don't count on anything from SS when thinking about retirement funds because I don't know how it will change by the time I get there.  It wasn't supposed to be taxed and yet the income threshold for that to start is pretty low.  I wouldn't be surprised to see means testing in the future.  The people saying to remove the wage cap don't seem to realize the formula calculating what someone gets is based on what they pay in so just removing the cap would mean people are owed more when they start drawing.  

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